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Rollei TLR Digital

Postby Reschsmooth on Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:46 am

Has anyone seen or had a play with one of these?

http://www.rollei.jp/e/pd/MiniD.html

Could be a bit of fun...

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Postby Justin on Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:52 am

That's a beauty! How cool!
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Postby Glen on Fri Aug 11, 2006 10:59 am

Very cute Patrick, $350 US
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Postby Reschsmooth on Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:01 am

I forget where I saw it, but I saw a price of USD220. I think I may just stick with the 120 film TLR we have at home!

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Postby Kyle on Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:05 pm

Thats awesome, might buy one :up:
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Postby Justin on Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:26 pm

us220 for a keyring camera? Hello!
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:00 pm

I saw one of these going for around 200-300 AU a few months back.

They're likely to not be very good, ya'll realise. Just another marketing gimmick.
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Postby xorl on Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:31 pm

Erk.. A pretend TLR digicam with a which uses a tiny CCD and LCD instead of ground glass. It even requires you to turn the crank despite not having any film.

Sounds like an abomination to me :). A little disappointing Rollei would stick their name on a gimmick like that. I think a real medium format Rollei TLR would be much more interesting. I hear 120 film compares favourably with most 2megapixel CCDs :).
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Postby xorl on Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:40 pm

Double erk...

Lens: 9mm f2.8 5 elements fixed focus
DOF: 0.7m to infinity

Fixed aperture, fixed focus, auto exposure, auto WB. The CCD is so small you get huge DoF anyway. Rollei makes an instamatic for the digital age ;).
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:52 pm

And practically all of the Kodak camera range are crappy little Box Brownies but not as fun! :lol:
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Postby Yi-P on Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:05 pm

But only a 2 MP small sensor... :(


I will buy one for fun if the price be at $200AUD or less 8)
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Postby elffinarts on Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:01 pm

cute but this is more what I'd like to save for http://www.rollei.jp/e/pd/DigitalBundle.html
yummy. :)
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Postby Reschsmooth on Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:24 pm

elffinarts wrote:cute but this is more what I'd like to save for http://www.rollei.jp/e/pd/DigitalBundle.html
yummy. :)


Very nice - 16 megapixels. Either that, or this one:

http://www.hasselblad.se/index.asp?page ... temId=3849

Apparently it produces 80mb or so RAW files.

The RRP I have seen on this one is about $65,000.

Any my birthday is only 3 weeks away!

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Postby Yi-P on Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:31 pm

RRP $65k :shock: :shock:

Definately not for enthusiastics.... at least the poor ones... :lol:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:40 pm

Except for that's not a TLR :P
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Postby Nnnnsic on Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:42 pm

Well, I'll be operating on a job using a Blad H1 with a Phase P25 back tomorrow. Who wants my job? :lol:
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Postby beetleboy on Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:00 pm

I know the feeling Leigh..we use our Mamiya hooked up to a P25 here on a regular basis and there are whispers in the works of upgrading to one of the new Phase One backs and popping it on a 67! yeh baby!

When I'm digi-assistant using the P25 I often zoom in to an image, and zoom in, and zoom in and you just keep seeing more and more detail appearing! It's brilliant!
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Postby wendellt on Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:12 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:Well, I'll be operating on a job using a Blad H1 with a Phase P25 back tomorrow. Who wants my job? :lol:


i want your job
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Postby Yi-P on Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:20 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:Well, I'll be operating on a job using a Blad H1 with a Phase P25 back tomorrow. Who wants my job? :lol:


I do!
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Postby elffinarts on Sun Aug 13, 2006 5:35 pm

I'm still waiting for my sister to work out how much to sell her old Blad to me for. I've still no idea which model it is but if it can be connected to a capture back, I'm going to need a really big business loan. lol
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Postby Nnnnsic on Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:42 pm

Rightio... I just found where I found the little Rollei digi for around 200 bucks.

'Tis $220 AU.

http://www.lapfoto.com.au/specials_view.cfm?Special=6
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Postby Yi-P on Mon Aug 21, 2006 1:25 pm

Is there any original 2MP samples or review out there for this little cam?
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Postby padey on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:10 pm

Nnnnsic wrote:Well, I'll be operating on a job using a Blad H1 with a Phase P25 back tomorrow. Who wants my job? :lol:


Not your job, just the P25.

What format are you shooting IIQ Raw L or IIQ Raw S? What file size? And I guess your tethering it up?
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Postby gstark on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:28 pm

padey wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:Well, I'll be operating on a job using a Blad H1 with a Phase P25 back tomorrow. Who wants my job? :lol:


Not your job


The job invloved shooting 10 attractgive female topless models, Andrew. You sure you don't want to reconsider? :)
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Postby padey on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:39 pm

gstark wrote:
padey wrote:
Nnnnsic wrote:Well, I'll be operating on a job using a Blad H1 with a Phase P25 back tomorrow. Who wants my job? :lol:


Not your job


The job invloved shooting 10 attractgive female topless models, Andrew. You sure you don't want to reconsider? :)


Well give the man a P45!!!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nnnnsic on Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:41 pm

padey wrote:What format are you shooting IIQ Raw L or IIQ Raw S? What file size? And I guess your tethering it up?


We're tethered to Capture One and while I expected to use IIQ L, Capture pulls in in a proprietry RAW format identifying itself as TIF.

The odd thing about Capture's TIF is that every version of Capture I've played with (both PC and Mac) read it as a RAW file, but the moment you bring it directly into something like Photoshop, all you get is a thumbnail image.
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Postby obzelite on Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:21 am

yodobashi-umeda in japan had a whole set of different ones when i was there

They are very cool. all the classics in miniature like the leica, think it was a M3 but possible a later model, and a nikon and olympus from what i recall.
And all functional as digitals


edit:quick search turned up this page.

http://www.submin.com/8x11/collection/c ... ion.htm#P1


these all use the film from the minox spy camera, but this is the range i saw in digital form.
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Postby adam on Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:53 am

Wow, only 220 now?
I was going to buy one back in the days when I was working and had money - now I'm happy I didn't :) haha
I think when I asked how much at the shop, they told me $440 or something (I asked in December 2004)
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Postby DaveB on Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:23 am

Nnnnsic wrote:The odd thing about Capture's TIF is that every version of Capture I've played with (both PC and Mac) read it as a RAW file, but the moment you bring it directly into something like Photoshop, all you get is a thumbnail image.

Not all that odd really. TIFF files commonly include a thumbnail, but the image data in the rest of the file can be encoded in many different ways. CMYK/RGB, JPEG/ZIP/LZW compression, groups of R/G/B pixels, planes of R then G then B, and lots more. TIFF is a very flexible file format that was introduced by Adobe years ago, and was used as a holder for RAW data by many early cameras. The RAW files produced by the EOS 1D and 1Ds (the Mk.I bodies) and by the Kodak DCS SLRs are all TIFF files, and all behave as you've described.
The RAW conversion software knows how to decode the RAW data, but at least the thumbnail and the basic EXIF data are in "standard" formats.
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