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by Greg B on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:14 am
This place is in Riversdale Road, and I pass it every morning on the tram. I have photographed it a couple of times, thinking it could potentially be a great shot, but it hasn't happened for me. I love the slightly tired look of the place, I love the musical staff on the front there where a note has clearly fallen off, the whole thing is just a bit sad and daggy. I have given up trying to get a good shot, I am not happy with this one, but I am sick of trying to turn a sow's ear into a silk purse. So this is it then. 
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by gstark on Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:38 am
Hi Greg, Reshoot this from just below the patio overhang ... a little below where the sign says dance studio. Oh yes, ... ask a couple to get dressed up to the nines, and have them strike a dance pose on the roof, just to the right of the chimney. 
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by phillipb on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:55 am
and while you're at it ask them to put a dot in the second bar. 
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by Oneputt on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:36 am
Geoff I can see why this attracted you, and I wonder if a B&W conversion might suit the image better?
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by Glen on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:38 am
Greg, I must say I am a fan of this shot, I love the tired look and unusual skies, the whole feeling is one of a bygone era
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by Matt. K on Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:50 pm
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by Greg B on Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:05 pm
If anybody cares, this is the original shot.   Gary, I am done with this sucker Phillip, a dot would fix the second bar, absolutely Thanks Oneputt, even if you got my name wrong Thanks Glen Thanks Matt, although it is in B flat, so I must be Greg B Flat 
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by gstark on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:06 pm
Greg B wrote:Phillip, a dot would fix the second bar, absolutely
You both must be getting old and crotchety. If not dotty, because not a dot, but a crotchet, is what's needed. 
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by phillipb on Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:15 pm
Not necessarily Gary, a dot next to what is already there will also do it. won't it?
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by shakey on Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:28 am
phillipb wrote:Not necessarily Gary, a dot next to what is already there will also do it. won't it?
Yep.. And on that note I'll waltz away.
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by DebT on Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:50 am
Greg, for what it's worth I like your treatment of the shot ...and a great find too Have fun Deb T
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by Nikon boy on Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:45 am
Greg i also like what you have done with the shot
would shooting it in late afternoon or evening light assist in getting a different effect ?
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by gstark on Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:11 am
shakey wrote:phillipb wrote:Not necessarily Gary, a dot next to what is already there will also do it. won't it?
Yep.. And on that note I'll waltz away.
Actually, no, it wouldn't. It would certainly fill the bar with the missing beat, but a dotted note really just extends the prior note, and perhaps - probably - with an implied slur. In the other bars, we see that there are no such slurs, and we also see that there is always a third (hard) beat in every bar. While a dotted note doesn't exclude that, it also doesn't instruct the player that this is what is needed. Importantly - the notes that follow are almost always of a different note value - Bb-G, G-Eb ... While the final bar seems to be Bb - Bb, that too does not use a dotted note, even though (being the final bar) resolving to a dotted note may well be musically correct at that point. But a dotted note doesn't permit the use of a different note value to occur, and for me, that would be overriding consideration.
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by phillipb on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:03 am
gstark wrote: It would certainly fill the bar with the missing beat, but a dotted note really just extends the prior note, and perhaps - probably - with an implied slur. In the other bars, we see that there are no such slurs, and we also see that there is always a third (hard) beat in every bar. While a dotted note doesn't exclude that, it also doesn't instruct the player that this is what is needed.
Importantly - the notes that follow are almost always of a different note value - Bb-G, G-Eb ... While the final bar seems to be Bb - Bb, that too does not use a dotted note, even though (being the final bar) resolving to a dotted note may well be musically correct at that point.
But a dotted note doesn't permit the use of a different note value to occur, and for me, that would be overriding consideration.
... and besides all that, it wouldn't be the Blue Danube any more would it? 
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by gstark on Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:23 am
phillipb wrote:... and besides all that, it wouldn't be the Blue Danube any more would it? 
More like the Danube Blues ... 
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