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Cows

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:46 am
by katweazl
This was taken in the hinterland behind Coffs Harbour. It was belting rain and really foggy. I thought this shot had a real "mood" about it.
Thanks for all the great encouragement from my previous shot.
Joel

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:43 am
by rebel
I love it! The fog is great!

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:02 am
by Manta
Outstanding Katweazl.
I love these atmospheric shots and you pulled this off well.
I may have been tempted to clone out the ceramic electric fence fittings between the two fence posts as I found my eye was being drawn to them a little too much.
(Also, the cow fourth from the left up the back isn't smiling.)

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:23 am
by Oneputt
Very nice, but why didn't you hop over the fence and take it


Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:35 am
by Matt. K
Nice shot! On my monitor it looks a little green?? I would prefer to see it slightly blue...or even red. Maybe try opening it in
PS and go the the curves menu. Click on the middle eye dropper and click on a grey or white area of one of the cows. Or go the the variations pallet and check out the ringaround. It's worth the effort because it is a lovel image.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:35 am
by Mj
I like, but agree with Oneputt... if you get another chance try it without the fence !!!

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:44 am
by MATT
Great image and it does have a good "mooooooood" to it.
MAtt K. what will the
PS curves advice do? Will it make the cows white or reduce the green accross the fog?
MATT

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:56 am
by Matt. K
MATT
If you click the eye dropper on a neutral gray area...that is...an area that has no colour, then the curves tool will correctly colour balance the image. Sometimes it may over correct. If that is the case then immediatly after adjusting the curves go to EDIT/FADE CURVES and you can adjust the changes you have just made. Some photographers include a KODAK GRAY CARD in their first shot and then remove it for consequent shots. That first shot can then be used to get your colour balance spot on. I would only do this for situations where the light could be tricky or for copy or portrait work.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:12 pm
by big pix
nice capture....... but I agree with matt K the shot looks a little green...... just follow his instruction for a fix......

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:25 pm
by katweazl
Thanks ......I intended for the green cast. I adjusted the white balance to get that cold feel.
So it is completely intentional.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:28 pm
by big pix
katweazl wrote:Thanks ......I intended for the green cast. I adjusted the white balence to get that cold feel.
So it is completely intentional.
....... it should have been more blue to look cold.....

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:36 pm
by marcotrov
Nice shot with plenty of atmosphere and one that could have been significantly enhanced, as suggested by Oneputt if you'd onle trespassed a little
cheers
marco

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:42 pm
by mudder
G'day Joel,
Good moody shot mate, The green cast does catch me a little, wonder how it'd look in B&W?
The fence is OK, maybe if you were closer to the fence so it was lower in the perspective of the shot so it's not as much of a seperator between the view and the cows maybe?
Belting rain at the time, that's what I call commitment, good stuff...


Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:13 pm
by MATT
Thanks for the info MATT K.
MATT

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:17 pm
by katweazl
I dunno.....I just really liked the fence in it. I thought it was just too plain without it.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:19 pm
by katweazl
mudder wrote:Belting rain at the time, that's what I call commitment, good stuff...

Yeah taken from inside the car!!!!

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:06 pm
by mudder
katweazl wrote:mudder wrote:Belting rain at the time, that's what I call commitment, good stuff...

Yeah taken from inside the car!!!!
Ha! You shouldn't have mentioned that, I was really impressed
Like the fence in the frame, was just wondering about how it would look if it was on more of an angle or if you were higher and there was more room between the fence and the cows, like if you were shooting from closer to the fence maybe.
Cheers mate


Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:56 pm
by rokkstar
Excellent shot. Love the mist and the use of negative space.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:05 pm
by katweazl
mudder wrote:Good moody shot mate, The green cast does catch me a little, wonder how it'd look in B&W?
Looks like this


Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 5:49 pm
by mudder
Hey, I reckon that's transformed that shot... Yep, the B&W does it for me...


Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:59 pm
by Alpha_7
I prefer the black and white as well, but only marginally as I also like how lush and green the originally posted shot was.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:08 pm
by stubbsy
I think it works better in B&W too - the original was way too green.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:33 pm
by Sheetshooter
Joel,
This is another cracker of a shot.
Like Nnnnsic, I have a strong preference in my own work and the work of others for black & white but in this instance it is the colour shots that works for me. And it is EXACTLY the green cast that makes it work and lifts it above the over inhabited realm of the predictable and repetitive.
Shrouded as they are in green mist I get the eerie feeling that something of a different order is to befall these cud chomping Daisys and THAT entertains me. The presence of electrical aparatus adds to this sense of a pending Z-A-P ! !.
When I assess an image (my own or somebody else's) I find it equally as important to listen to my heart as well as my head. If something works for you don't touch it. It is after all YOUR image - not the production of a committee.
Keep it up!!
Cheers,

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 8:12 pm
by Manta
Okay...going against popular opinion here...
I prefer the colour version as I think too much more detail is lost in the foggy sky with the b&w - not that there was much detail to start with but at least the graduated colour gave it something.
I originally thought the image would be better taken from closer to the fence, or even peering over it, but the more I look at it the more I don't mind the fence where it is. To me, it establishes the shot more.

Posted:
Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:10 pm
by Alpha_7
Walter's comments about the green cast brought back earlier thoughts when I first saw this post. Not sure how many of your are familar with the book "Fungus the Boogeyman" but it fits very well into the saw and themes of the bool/cartoon. It was one of the grosses yet appealing books of my childhood, and I eally should track down a copy for myself.

Posted:
Sun Dec 25, 2005 5:06 pm
by Alex
Excellent image. I prefer the colour version.
Alex

Posted:
Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:05 pm
by Mj
Definitely think that colour works best for this shot... also the more time I spend looking at it the more I'm inclined to like the inclusion of the fence.

Posted:
Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:20 pm
by blaize
Excellent shot and i actually think the fence gives it a nice focus. And yes i like the colour shot more also.
cheers
Tony

Posted:
Tue Dec 27, 2005 8:21 am
by dooda
Great shot and effect. Magic.
With or without the fence, it would look great both ways, just different.