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Water drops

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:02 pm
by rokkstar
Hello,

I've been experimenting with water once again. Could I have some feedback on these. Please be brutally honest.

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Many thanks

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:11 pm
by wendellt
stunning technically brilliant work
2nd and3rd are a wipeout!
are these drops flicked across or are they drops heading downwards and you just tilted them

Cream want drops as a themed concept in one of their fashion shoots, i suggest you contact them now

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:21 pm
by Oneputt
Technically I am very impressed, but as stand alone images they do not do a lot for me.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:29 pm
by Dargan
Matt I assume this was taken with the D70. Can you expand on the strategies you used to get these shots and whether the 18-70 was used with an SB800 etc. They are great images and might even be cropped more heavily to isolate aspects of them for an abstract presentation.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:48 pm
by Oneputt
Perhaps I should expand on my earlier comment. They do not grab me because I think that the addition of colour to the images would really make the technical brilliance stand out.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:11 pm
by BBJ
Matt, well ahh let me say i think these look cool with the lighting and well different, i am not a technical person but these are fine.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:35 pm
by rokkstar
Thanks for the comments guys.
I was worried that the images might be a tad hot in places and that perhaps the focus would detract from some.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:36 pm
by sydneywebcam
I think that technically these images are excellent. Good lighting and colour. What they lack is a context. I guess you can hone your technique on the water but need to think about what it is doing , show something of where it is going/coming to/from to have a truely excellent shot. Having seen some of your other work I'm sure this won't be long in coming!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:10 pm
by Alpha_7
I like them Matt, like them alot. To be really honest the super hot section to the far left is a little irritating and I'd find some a way to reduce it, crop it whatever before I consider submitting them (but hey its on par with your smoke work, so if Cream is interested, go for it).

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:11 pm
by PiroStitch
The first pic is damn sharp and the rest are a bit soft, but I'm not sure if it's due to the jpg conversion.

Can you please give us some details about the setup, etc? :D

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:26 pm
by rokkstar
Alpha_7 wrote:To be really honest the super hot section to the far left is a little irritating and I'd find some a way to reduce it,


It irritates me too Craig, and the more I look the more I don't like which detracts from the whole image.

I agree that the image lacks a "reason d'etre" so to speak and will revist this with another eye perhaps.

The set up was relatively simple - two flash heads directed at a background from bottom and top right (the image have been rotated) and the water poured/thrown/swirled onto the floor. The D70 triggered the flashes remotely.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:07 pm
by MATT
I think they are all good images, agree about the hot spots also..

But you have inspired me to have a go at something like this.

Thanks



MATT

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:55 pm
by Slider
Personally I think the 3rd shot works well as a stand alone image. I can imagine it a large poster print by itself on a large wall. The others, although technically great lose a bit as the water loses form.:D

Love it. Ideas forming. More playtime ahead :roll: :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:36 am
by Matt. K
Matt
You are on to something pretty interesting here. I think you have pinned them down to about 80% of brilliant....but need to keep refining the technique. A tad more DOF....you can get that by moving back just a little, up the ISO just a little, and get another f-stop maybe.
Keep pushing this subject and you will end up with fine art.
Ansel Adams reputedly shot 1000 pics of a white cup and saucer to see what combination of SP and F-stop, film and lighting gave the best result.
And he had to pay for his film!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:47 am
by losfp
Great shots! :) Just to echo the others, they do perhaps lack a figurative sense of direction. But just like anything else.. If you can refine and perfect the technique, it becomes another tool in your arsenal when you're shooting in general :)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:06 pm
by Dargan
Reason Raisin Raison Rokkstar I agree with pushing this a bit further.

PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:03 am
by rokkstar
Very cool - looks like I might be involved in re-shooting these in the near future commercially. Not overly sure yet but initial reactions seem positive.

Thanks for the technical tips Matt, I'll definately try them next time .

Many thanks for the feedback people.