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Tiltshift images?

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:48 pm
by vort
Anyone here a fan of tiltshift?
I just discovered it recently and wow some of the stuff is amazing!
Here's my first attempt at it, it's obviously been done in photoshop because well I don't have a fancy tiltshift lense

Can you get them for a d70?


Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 7:57 pm
by birddog114
One of our admin will like your works.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:04 pm
by vort
Which?


Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:05 pm
by leek
vort,
Sorry, but why do you say that this is tilt-shift? My understanding of tilt-shift is a lens that helps to correct for vertical perspective distortion... I might be wrong, but I don't see how that applies to this image...

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:35 pm
by dooda
These fake tilt shift images are absolutely all over flickr right now. It's like someone released a virus.
Leek, I once thought that it was to correct the vertical distortion as well, but everyone on flickr is calling this tiltshift effect, and it basically makes everyday images look like they're miniature. Pretty gimmicky as far as I'm concerned.
I'm not sure that the above image is the right type of image to try it out with, it looks like you splattered blur all over it.
I've thought about manipulating it with some toys, like a tyranosaurus toy in front of a bridge, to double fool the viewer.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:55 pm
by sirhc55
John - you are correct. And Vort, yes you can buy tilt/shift for Nikon but you would not get a photo like yours by using a tilt/shift lens
A tilt/shit lens is used primarily in architectural photography but is also very useful in removing glare from framed pics by shooting off-axis.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:25 pm
by vort
Yeah, I understand the concept of an actual tilt/shift lense.. but as mentioned, this is the fad going around flickr and they are being called tiltshift shots.
I realise it probly wasn't the best picture to test this out on but i just got my new camera then and haven't had a chance to take any shots yet.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:15 pm
by kipper
Sorry but WTF? I might just go take a shot of something apply a filter to it and go "wow check out my .... shot". Seriously whoever is posting these on flickr, should stop.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:18 pm
by vort
Kipper, I hate filters with a passion.. but this type of shot is really interesting. Have you actually seen any of the (decent) ones on flickr?

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:20 pm
by kipper
link?
Lol, I just check out the interestingness of Flickr. First shot is a composite of a not so special lake with a not so special bird composited on it. For a variation on the shot the guy applied a circular motion blur on the background. Yawn.
Just seen one tilt shift image. Interesting. Dunno why they called it that, why not just "minature effect" or something along those lines. Now everyone is thinking tilt shift lenses.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:27 pm
by big pix
Looks like Vaseline on glass in front of lens trick......... or photoshop

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:29 pm
by vort
kipper wrote:link?
Lol, I just check out the interestingness of Flickr. First shot is a composite of a not so special lake with a not so special bird composited on it. For a variation on the shot the guy applied a circular motion blur on the background. Yawn.
Just seen one tilt shift image. Interesting. Dunno why they called it that, why not just "minature effect" or something along those lines. Now everyone is thinking tilt shift lenses.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/59319377@N00/pool/
That's the 'tilt shit miniature fakes' group on flickr. Some pretty cool stuff there I reckon.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:36 pm
by leek
vort wrote:That's the 'tilt shit miniature fakes' group on flickr. Some pretty cool stuff there I reckon.
Tilt Shit ???? Hmmm... was that a freudian slip?
Sorry, but I don't see the attraction / fascination...
Just looks like a load of randomly applied blur to me...

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:37 pm
by phillipb
I'm not sure I understand this.
Basically you take a picture, you apply heavy gaussian blur in photoshop and you then erase the blur off a portion of the image.
Is this right?

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:41 pm
by vort
You use the Lens Blur feature in CS2 to give it a very shallow DOF and then bump up the saturation/curves to give the colors the bold painted feel you get with miniatures.
I guess you either love it or hate it. There's alot of crap on there but there's some really interesting shots, too.
FTR, Generally I hate photoshopping pics.. The extent to which i will edit my pics is basic stuff, ie. brightness, saturation, etc. This is just a bit of fun.
I love the ones with people in them, like these:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcovaler ... 19377@N00/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29821784@N ... 19377@N00/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paulm/1061 ... 19377@N00/
and others;
http://www.flickr.com/photos/18548237@N ... 19377@N00/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mcsixth/10 ... 19377@N00/

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:44 pm
by beetleboy
I must admit I poo-pooed this at first, but a few of those manipulations actually look VERY convincing. I especially like the Eden Project - it really does look like a tiny little
model!
Liam =]

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:52 pm
by Slider
Not sure I get the point of it.
I guess everyone's version of art doesn't have to the same as mine so to each his own

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:02 pm
by gstark
Tilt-shift - using a perspective correction lens - can be a very useful technique.
This is nothing like what tilt-shift is, and IMHO tilt-shit is definitely a more accurate description.
Sorry, but I have no desire to check out any fad on flickr.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:08 pm
by MCWB
Slider wrote:Not sure I get the point of it.
The point is to create the illusion of a very small DOF by using blurring, thereby making the subject look miniature. From a brief look, some of them are indeed tilt-shit, but others are quite well done.


Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:18 pm
by vort
gstark wrote:Tilt-shift - using a perspective correction lens - can be a very useful technique.
This is nothing like what tilt-shift is, and IMHO tilt-shit is definitely a more accurate description.
Sorry, but I have no desire to check out any fad on flickr.
Well I was never forcing you
I know it's not tilt shift but that's what they're calling the fad on flickr so eh.

Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:21 pm
by gstark
vort wrote:I know it's not tilt shift but that's what they're calling the fad on flickr so eh.
Not the first time something's been poorly named, and it certainly won't be the last.


Posted:
Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:24 pm
by vort
I know, I know.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:10 am
by rokkstar
I've got to say that I think these are really cool - semantics aside.
Whatever the actual word I think the images are just really "cute" and might give this a go myself sometime. I'm such a fashion victim, I fall so easily for the latest fads.


Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:44 am
by dooda
I'm sure people thought the same thing about the Black and white cutouts as well.


Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:32 am
by SteveGriffin
Checked out some of the Flickr stuff and have to admit that the whole idea is lost on me. Everytime I take a shot that isn't bang on sharp I get hammered but these guys actually think of these shots as art.
Hang on - maybe I should switch forums - I could be a hero on Flickr


Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:55 am
by dreams
i was suprised myself when seeing these type of photos,interesting
anyone want to try to make this "cheap" go
here.
and you guys
MUST CHECK SEE THIS ONE OUT!
click here

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:21 pm
by oli
Why do we think that these images are of miniature subjects?

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:25 pm
by vort
Because the shallow dof and the way the bright colors resemble little
models that have been freshly painted. Also strong shadows help to create the illusion of a studio light.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:41 pm
by jben_net
Good thing this discussion was raised. Love it or hate it, its good to stay up to date with trends. I like it when this tilt shift is done well, but there's often a lot of failed attempts out there too.
Interesting stuff.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:48 pm
by gstark
oli wrote:Why do we think that these images are of miniature subjects?
We do ??
Who says ?


Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:02 pm
by MCWB
dreams wrote:and you guys
MUST CHECK SEE THIS ONE OUT!click here
Great link, some nice examples there. Thanks!


Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:14 pm
by oli
gstark wrote:oli wrote:Why do we think that these images are of miniature subjects?
We do ??
Who says ?

Have you read the thread?
MCWB wrote:thereby making the subject look miniature
beetleboy wrote:it really does look like a
tiny little
model!
vort wrote:You use the Lens Blur feature in CS2 to give it a very shallow DOF and then bump up the saturation/curves to give the colors the bold painted feel you get with miniatures.
vort wrote:That's the 'tilt shit miniature fakes' group on flickr. Some pretty cool stuff there I reckon.
kipper wrote:Dunno why they called it that, why not just "minature effect" or something along those lines.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:43 pm
by gstark
oli wrote:gstark wrote:oli wrote:Why do we think that these images are of miniature subjects?
We do ??
Who says ?

Have you read the thread?
Er, have you? There are posts of mine interspersed throughout the whole thread. They didn't just appear there by magic, you know.
Just to clarify ... not all of us think that these are images of miniature subjects.
Some of us actually think that they're not very good at all, and some of us prefer to not slavishly follow the latest trend, 'cos that light at the end of that trendoid tunnel might just be an oncoming freight train.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:02 pm
by oli
I thought it would be obvious that asking a question like mine would be directed at those who did think the images appeared to be of miniature subjects, and not those who had allready made it clear they didn't care much for the images. Vort seemed to work that out straight away by answering my question.
I have an answer now and I won't bother with this thread anymore, since like you gstark I don't care much for these types of photographs.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:26 pm
by gstark
oli wrote:I have an answer now and I won't bother with this thread anymore, since like you gstark I don't care much for these types of photographs.
This thread is still quite valuable, but only for its comedic content.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:00 pm
by Zeeke
images are unique.. sort of.. but not really my cup of tea..
Tim

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:02 pm
by Glen
http://www.uscoles.com/pclens.htm
This link shows the Nikon tilt shift (well really only one) for people who want to know what they really do. The best example is halfway down the page of the Schmidt Brewery. Look at the right hand size of the image, you can see the benefit against the white building of a pc lens. The reality is the viewer (unless educated) shouldn't realise you are using these lenses. In reality these lenses are a bit tricky to use and a similar (but not the same) thing can be done in photoshop.
The flickr examples have nothing to do with this at all.

Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 6:53 pm
by phillipb

So Basically we have people who take macros - ie. miniatures - trying to get as much DOF as possible to make it look like real life, and people who take real life photos with as little DOF as possible to make it look like miniatures - ie.macros -.
All makes sense to me now.


Posted:
Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:37 pm
by rebel
some of them are really good, and some are just really bad. I like the effect if it's done right. Focuses on the subject really well.

Posted:
Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:48 am
by james m
here a few more examples of the real thing using the Canon 24/3.5 TS-E lens from
Kazutoshi Shirai photoblog for stuff like
this or
this or
this or even
this

Posted:
Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:53 pm
by Big Red
they are certainly an image not to be taken seriously and look like a bit of fun to me.
could be a good use for a pic that didn't turn out the way you wanted it to.