Clutching her handbag...

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Clutching her handbag...

Postby Sheila Smart on Tue May 16, 2006 9:51 pm

.. a very elderly lady wandered off..but not before I got this shot which is heavily cropped.

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Postby Alex on Tue May 16, 2006 9:54 pm

Hi Sheila, Very nice subject matter and composition, but I find the treatment of hands is way too dark (burnt), looks a bit over the top.

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Postby Suri on Tue May 16, 2006 9:59 pm

The composition works.
Just an opinion but, when is black - too black in black and white ?
Prefer more shades of grey - unless the artist has a particular reason to make the image this way.
Perhaps it is part of a body of work ?
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Postby Matt. K on Tue May 16, 2006 10:02 pm

Sheila
Is she alive? :shock:
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Postby Marty on Tue May 16, 2006 10:07 pm

Nice composition.
But over pp for my taste.
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Postby Alpha_7 on Tue May 16, 2006 10:09 pm

Not sure I like the treatment and the shot looks a bit soft (could be the treatment) but it does have a deep emotional undertow to it, the hands are so expressive and it's almost like you can read her life story through the hands. For it's emotional content this strong is super strong and makes up for the apparent softness or unusal treatment (in my mind).
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Postby Sheila Smart on Tue May 16, 2006 10:23 pm

Thanks all. Now here is the rest (or the top half) of the image, turned into sepia

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I think I will look again at the hand treatment.

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Postby Suri on Tue May 16, 2006 10:29 pm

Ahhh - but a thousand words are said above.
Those hands deserve such a face - what a wonderful subject.
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Postby Sheila Smart on Tue May 16, 2006 10:34 pm

Here is a more conventional "treatment" of the lady's hands

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Good, bad or indifferent! :D

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Postby Marty on Tue May 16, 2006 10:45 pm

Sheila,
the pp on the hands give her the appearence of a coloured lady, but looking at her face she isnt.
I like the treatment on the face, shows her age beautifully.
Do you let these people know you are taking their photos...???
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Postby Steffen on Wed May 17, 2006 3:16 am

Hi Sheila,
I like the 2nd image a lot better, not because of the PP (the first image was just fine in that respect) but because of the more loose cropping. I found the first image a bit too tight, the hand bag wasn't really obvious at first glance. The second one makes the "clutching the handbag" the main subject.

The original PP was fine by me, esp. since there was plenty of tonal range in the clothing, yet the hands were quite stark.

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Postby Steffen on Wed May 17, 2006 3:17 am

D'oh, I was talking about the first and *third* image, of course...

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Postby Grev on Wed May 17, 2006 3:27 am

I REALLY like the composition, it's really warm, really really warm. :)
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Postby bindiblue on Wed May 17, 2006 8:13 am

Shelia, I love the 2nd version,, what character this old dear has got in her face,

Well captured.

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Postby Sheila Smart on Wed May 17, 2006 10:27 am

I thought I should join the two together :) Again, using an Optikvervelabs filter, here is the full image - well not exactly full as I cropped out some of the background.

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As you all by now know, I do like filters! Although the original image was fairly good (shot RAW), I believe that turning to mono brings out the best in a somewhat ordinary image.

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Postby moggy on Wed May 17, 2006 11:32 am

I do like that last image Sheila, a definitive pic of old age! :)

8) Bob.

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Postby dreams on Fri May 19, 2006 3:30 pm

i must say that the first one is overburn, the last one is nice
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