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plateless food

Posted:
Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:56 pm
by redline

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:00 am
by Willy wombat
Yumo. They work for me.
The lamb looks a little rare. Might redo that one.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:01 am
by Alpha_7
I like the removal of plates, you don't eat them, they don't ususally add to the shot, so these work well for me (IMO). Some nice looking food too if I was eating real meals.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:08 am
by PiroStitch
I don' tlike the lamb or gourmet pizza shot. The shadows are too harsh on the lamb shots.
The rest are absolutely divine and making me wonder why I'm drinking this crappy soup at the moment....

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:16 am
by redline
yeah most of the food was cooked for display only, guess it really shows up on the lamb, something for future reference thanks.
I guess i wanted to shoot it like a spider.
don't like the pizza one Wayne? i know theres a hint of flaring but i like that fact you can see the ingredients. how does'nt it work for you?

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:27 am
by sirhc55
The food looks great but I do find the shadows on all shots to be intrusive. Can you let us know the lighting set up for these shots - appears to be only one light source.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:32 am
by redline
sirhc55 wrote:The food looks great but I do find the shadows on all shots to be intrusive. Can you let us know the lighting set up for these shots - appears to be only one light source.
well i used three, one main back light and 2 side lights

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:36 am
by sirhc55
Thanks for the info Redline. I would suggest then that the backlight is too powerful. A light setup with backlight at 11 through 1 and side lighting at 7 through 8 and 4 through 5 may soften the shadows


Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:39 am
by redline
sirhc55 wrote:Thanks for the info Redline. I would suggest then that the backlight is too powerful. A light setup with backlight at 11 through 1 and side lighting at 7 through 8 and 4 through 5 may soften the shadows

ok

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:42 am
by byrt_001
hi
great shots...can you share the lights setup?
thanks
Christian

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:45 am
by redline
byrt_001 wrote:hi
great shots...can you share the lights setup?
thanks
Christian
I had a set of flood lights as a back light, one single light on the left side(7 oclock) and a mirror around the 5 oclock region.
hope that helps

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:45 am
by Yi-P
redline wrote:
I had a set of flood lights as a back light, one single light on the left side(7 oclock) and a mirror around the 5 oclock region.
hope that helps
They are very wonderful!!
Only one comment tho, the tomato on the last shot doesnt look very appetizing... maybe a bit redish one to mean 'fresh'??
Do you have a little pic around of the studio and setup?? please?

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:47 am
by PiroStitch
I didnt like the pizza shot as it looked rather flat compared to the others due to the nice backlighting and reflection from the non-plate


Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:10 am
by beetleboy
Sorry redline..none of these are doing anything for me. I can see a lot of effort has gone into the food preparation but I think your lighting is killing the mood.
Those cakes would beckon with some glistening highlights but as has already been mentioned it seems you have too much light coming from behind which is throwing the viewer's side of the product into shadow.
The last food shoot I was on was also a wintery theme and I think the key was the colour of light (slightly warm) and positioning. We had one light up high and behind, almost like a hair light and the only other light was a softbox from the left..a white board reflector filled the shadows on the right and yes, lunch was great!
Hope this helps a little..unfortunately I can't post the pics cos technically they're not mine to show! I was only assisting on the job!
Liam =]
Edit: on second glance, i think your rear light is in a fairly useable position..just dial it back a little or diffuse it some more. And get some light onto the front...

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:56 am
by Glen
Redline like the plateless idea but not so keen on the shadows

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 7:53 am
by BBJ
All looks yummy though as food will be thing of the past for me soon, and it is a good idea though and keep playing i guess pending on how fussy you want to be.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:26 am
by gstark
Chris has nailed it wrt his lighting comments.
The shots are very obviously lit from the back, and therein lies the problem: the lighting - or at least the frontal shadow - is almost the dominant feature in these shots.
As Chris has said, the lighting needs to be better ballanced, probably by reducing - significantly - the intensity of the rearmost light.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:03 am
by Greg B
I like the idea in principle, but the realisation is not so appealing.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:03 am
by Laurie
they look so nice. awesome shots.
very nice idea with the no plates.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:24 am
by greencardigan
These shot have great potential. Just not quite right yet though.

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:16 am
by redline
i really do appreciate the feedback here it really great.
I did some other shots with plate are they just as bad?
any good wayne?


Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:22 am
by beetleboy
There is alot of potential here redline.
I think you also need to put some more PP into them as well..the colours seem very dull and lifeless but the detail is there - i think they need to be pushed a bit.
Liam

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:22 pm
by stormygirl
That steak has my name written all over it! Mmmmm, I have the perfect drop of red that would go with it too......
I really like the plateless idea, but agree the shadows are a little too dominant. Great stuff though, love food, and now I'm hungary


Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:05 pm
by Matt. K
As examples of the food I think the shots work fine. The shadows don't bother me and I think your client will be pretty happy. We can get too pendantic about shadows, but the fact is, they exist in nature and wherever there is light.

Posted:
Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:22 am
by Nnnnsic
I like the shots however...
It could be the conversion to jpeg but I find the colours are a bit faded.
How much saturation should you be using, I don't know, however it seems like a little bit more might entice me to eat my screen...

Posted:
Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:02 am
by beetleboy
I hope you don't mind me messing with your image redline but Leigh is onto something there..
I've applied a standard S curve to show how much oomph you can get out of these shots - makes a huge difference!
Liam


Posted:
Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:07 am
by Dug
Great concept! Have you thought of using a light table and having the light coming up from under the food?
A big sheet of white perspex will do the job and drop out the background shadows.
it all looks yummo to me. the lamb could be a bit more Pink


Posted:
Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:17 am
by Nnnnsic
I'd feather select and use curves to even out some of that shadow and dark greens, but that's closer to making me hungry.


Posted:
Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:07 pm
by nito
I was gonna say more color in the veges and contrast on the meet. The shot do look delicious.