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Portrait of my wife

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:20 pm
by owen
Here's a portrait using my cheap lighting set up. I got bunny to hold the reflector to try and lighten the shadows on the right of her nose... I think I need a bit of a stronger light there though.

I went for a bit of a 'warm' feel to the image, so it has a warm white balance but this was deliberate.

Comments and critique welcome, I'm very new to this kind of photography.

Regards,
Owen.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:29 pm
by bago100
Excellent photo there Owen

Bunny's eyes are captured beautifully

Well done!

Cheers

Graham

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:31 pm
by Alpha_7
Great job Owen, I hope you and Bunny are both happy with the results. Looks like you DYI studio lighting worked a treat, her left eye seems a lot sharper then her right, is this due to the DOF you used ? Either way, it worked really well.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:36 pm
by rooboy
That's a lovely shot. I agree that the shadow on her nose is a bit harsh, but really, it's a wonderful portrait that shows character very well. Hope to see some more of this style of photography from you, you're off to a great start :)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:37 pm
by owen
Thanks for the comments gentlemen. Lisa (Bunny) likes the result although she didn't say so but gave me permission to post it hehe.

Her left eye is a bit sharper than her right, just due to the depth of field unfortunately. Next shoot I'll try to get that part right.

Again, thanks for the comments, anything anyone can add to help me get better with this setup will be very much appreciated.

Regards,
Owen.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:40 pm
by owen
rooboy wrote:That's a lovely shot. I agree that the shadow on her nose is a bit harsh, but really, it's a wonderful portrait that shows character very well. Hope to see some more of this style of photography from you, you're off to a great start :)


Thanks very much for the comment rooboy. I'll work on getting rid of the shadow in the next shoot.

Cheers,
Owen.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:45 pm
by Matt. K
Hi Owen
Do you use Photoshop? If so then try this with the image of your beautiful wife...er...beautiful image of your wife. Go to curves and click the middle eyedropper. Click the eyedropper on the white of her right eye. This will normalise the colour balance. I'm not sure if you will think it looks better but the original image is very warm. I apologise if the colour balance as it stands is something you have intentionally created.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:45 pm
by Glen
Owen great portrait and you have captured your wifes engaging eyes well. As a whole, to me, the colour seems a bit orange but nothing which cant be corrected in PP. I also could be wrong. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:49 pm
by Willy wombat
Nice treatment on the eyes Owen. Its nice to have a willing model. My GF is always reluctant.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:55 pm
by owen
Thanks for the advice guys. Matt I tried what you suggested and it does look much better... in fact the original is far too yellow after changing it. Here's the result.

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edit: this is the version that I am happy with, a little bit of warmth to it, but not overdone like above.

Thanks!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:09 pm
by Michael
Clean up her face a bit (no offence) and do a lab B/W on it then curve it.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:25 pm
by owen
Thanks for the idea Michael.

Turned out nice:

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Cheers,
Owen.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:42 pm
by shakey
For me,

I'd bring her forward from the background so you can increase the DOF and still keep the background blurry. At present it almost looks like her face is popping out from her neck. I like to see the blurriness more graduated. There's a hot spot on the tip of her nose which could be easily fixed.

I like the catchlights and the soft shadows. Maybe I'll try this sort of photo someday. :P

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:47 pm
by owen
Thanks for the comments shakey. :)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:51 pm
by Big V
Love the colour of the yes in the 2nd pic

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:02 pm
by ghost
Hmmm very interesting. I too followed matt's suggestion and came up with this......a very different result. Nice tip either way Matt! Thanks. Although I do like the B&W.

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Boooo 666 :wink: My special day!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:04 pm
by Matt. K
Love the treatment on the black and white image.

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:06 pm
by Alpha_7
The black and white is beautiful, and so is Lisa print her one and frame it :)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:09 pm
by sirhc55
Black and white is superb :)

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:10 pm
by ozczecho
owen, I going to go against the grain and say that your 2nd image is the best. It just looks natural and the colours are great. Keep her eyes blue :D

Either way a great portrait, very beautiful...

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:02 am
by phillipb
Owen, I liked different aspects of each version, so I decided to try and combine them and came up with this. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:04 am
by Michael
Do you mind if I post My efforts?

Everyone else did so It can't hurt I suppose.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:09 am
by ghost
Very nice phillipb!!

I love your version.

Sorry all, but I had to do a test on the original in an attempt to work out why my earlier post (under Matt's instruction) was so much different to Owen's posted under the same instruction?
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Hmm now I've seen it I am lost :roll:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:12 am
by Alpha_7
Excellent phillip it reminds me of the painted photos of my dad and his brothers as kids... some great alternate treatments shown here.. beaut stuff.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:19 am
by ghost
phillipb..........can you give us a brief description on how you achieved your image?

Very, very good work. And congrats to Owen on a special photo.

ghost

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:27 am
by vort
I felt like doing a conversion too ;)

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FullSize: http://static.flickr.com/50/161664857_859818db13_o.jpg

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:30 am
by phillipb
ghost wrote:phillipb..........can you give us a brief description on how you achieved your image?

Very, very good work. And congrats to Owen on a special photo.

ghost


Well, basically I made a new copy layer, converted it to B&W diffused it a bit.
On the original layer I saturated the blue eyes, blended the two layers with about 70% opacity and used the history brush to make the eyes sharp again.
I also did some burning of the right hand side shadows and some dodging of the nose shadow, but I think I may have mucked that up a bit. And finally adjust the levels a bit.

Oh yes, I almost forgot, I started off with the second version.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:36 am
by ghost
Thanks Phillip, I'll digest that & hopefully learn!

Great shot Owen :wink:

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:40 am
by ozczecho
Stunning work Vort..I like it a lot..willing to share your method?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 12:47 am
by vort
ozczecho wrote:Stunning work Vort..I like it a lot..willing to share your method?


Thanks :)

I'll roughly try to explain it, it's a rather lengthy process! But basically, convert to lab, delete b channel, delete Alpha 2, Convert to grayscale and then to RGB, duplicate layer, adjust brightness/contrast, erase any parts that have been blown from the duplicated layer with an opacity of around 50%, flatten the image, colour balance- midtone levels: 10,0,-5 roughly and then USM

:)

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:07 am
by ozczecho
Thanks Vort...just had a go and looks a treat. :D

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:26 am
by bindiblue
Great shots, some really good CS work in here,, I had a play with this photo in Auto FX mystic tint and tone, came up pretty nice to ,

Suzanne

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 9:36 am
by owen
Awesome PP guys. Some really good and useful info. I'll certainly be visiting this thread again when I go to PP my next batch.

In regards to the second image and changing the midpoint as Matt mentioned, I duplicated the layer then changed the midpoint on the top layer, however this was a bit cold so I just reduced the opacity to bring some warmth from the bottom image back into it.

Thanks for all the suggestions and all of the edits, there are some very good versions.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:51 am
by xerubus
Hi Owen,

Beautiful shot of your better half.

Here's an edit I spent a little bit of time on...

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cheers

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 10:58 am
by owen
Nice job I really like that. I notice you've smoother her skin out too. Mind sharing what you did to do that and also what else you did to the image?

Thanks.
Owen.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:10 am
by xerubus
No problems... Here's an overview of what I did... you'll have to adjust each step according to what you want.... I did this in about 10mins, but I'd suggest taking your time and spending longer so that you get a better outcome.

1. Healing Brush. Zoom in on image and using the healing brush remove any blemishes.

2. Duplicate Layer.

3. On background layer, apply a gausian blur radius 2.0 pixels

4. On duplicated image, use an eraser with Opacity of 10% and start erasing around the eys and lips, forehead and cheeks. Don't go overboard as you will end up with an image that looks far too soft.

5. Flatten image.

6. Using pen tool, select one of the eyes, make selection and copy to new layer.

7. In new layer select paintbrush, opacity 11%. Use eye dropper and select part of the blue colour. change colour to slightly lighter and then carefully paint over the blue in the eyes to make them stand out a little. Apply sharpening (smart sharpen) with amount of 24%, radius 1.0, and remove gaussian blur.

8. Flatten image and do the same for the other eye.

9. Using pen tool, select the lips, make a selection, and copy to another layer. Increase red hue slightly and apply smart sharpen as per above. Using an eraser of 6%, erase slightly around the edges of her lips. Flatten image.

10. Using the lasso tool, draw around the 'red' areas on her forehead, down between the eyes, and around the cheeks and nose. copy to another layer. in hue/saturation, reduce the saturation slightly in the red channel. Flatten layers.

11. In levels, pull the right hand side of the histogram slightly to the left to increase some light, and move the right hand side slightly to the right to maintain contrast.

12. To finish off, select the healing brush again with the same settings and work your way around the eyebrows, and around the mouth.

That's pretty much it... just adjust each step to what you want the outcome to be.

cheers

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:15 am
by owen
That's really good info mate, thanks very much. Looking forward to trying out all of the ideas in this thread at my next opportunity.

Thanks very much.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:19 pm
by ABG
Owen,

Lovely portrait mate. That b/w conversion you've done looks stunning. So too does the last colour conversion from Mark. Thanks for sharing your PP secrets guys :)