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If you can't stand the heat...

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 9:56 pm
by Manta
DSLRUsers member Steve Griffin inflating his new "mini-airship" prior to what would have been its maiden flight. Sadly, the wind refused to play nicely and this was about as high as he got.
Photographically, I was really guessing. ISO at 800, 1/50 @ f10. The high ISO was due to other shots I was taking when the burner wasn't on; dusk light required the high setting. I wanted to retain as much as I could of the surroundings and so opted not to use any flash. Comments very welcome.
EDIT: Second image added

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:01 pm
by Geoff
What a shame the wind didn't allow for take off and some more photo ops Simon. I like this though, the enthusiasm and hope is relayed in the photo well I feel. Not much noise at ISO of 800. Got any more?

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:02 pm
by Alpha_7
I like it Simon the colours are great, and as Geoff said the ISO doesn't seem to be a problem.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:20 pm
by SteveGriffin
Struth - was it really that dark.
As I said earlier Simon I am glad we only drove 2 hours to get weathered out. Those 40 hour plane flights really suck.
Nice capture anyways but how does it look pushed a stop??

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:27 pm
by Manta
SteveGriffin wrote:Struth - was it really that dark.
As I said earlier Simon I am glad we only drove 2 hours to get weathered out. Those 40 hour plane flights really suck.
Nice capture anyways but how does it look pushed a stop??
Thanks Geoff - yes there's more but they'll have to wait 'til tomorrow. They'll need a bit of playing with - though I was using my tripod folded like a monopod, the shots were basically handheld. Not a good scenario in such low light with the kit lens.
Craig - cheers mate - I loved the colours too. Steve knits a nice sweater as well! (This, like most of Steve's rigs, was all home-made)
Steve - I tried all kinds of pushing and pulling the exposure, curves and levels but this was, to me, the best compromise between the available light and maintaining some detail in the flame. Tough balancing act and one I'm sure others could do better with. I've got the RAWs if you want to play.

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:36 pm
by casnell
Great atmosphere !

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:36 pm
by Matt. K
Nice shot Simon, But I'm wondering if just a light tad of fill flash wouldn't have improved that even more?

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:39 pm
by Alpha_7
Homemade, Seriously ? Wow!
That's a lot of "knitting".

Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:42 pm
by Manta
Thx Casnell - it was pretty frenetic trying to get things set up before the wind won and started dragging everything across the paddock.
Matt - you're absolutely right. The speed at which everything was happening was another reason why I quite literally forgot the basics. I just jumped in and shot what I could. A great learning experience - next time I'll take the time to sit back for a second or two and plan what I'm going to do.
That being said, I can always blend mulitple exposure versions in
PS. But that would be cheating...


Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 10:56 pm
by Matt. K
Simon
You would be suprised how many photographers look down at their cameras and say 'if only I had the SB-800 attached!"......But.....they forget about that brilliant little built in pop-up flash that can be dialled down to around minus EV 1.3 for just a tad of magic fill!


Posted:
Sat Sep 09, 2006 11:07 pm
by Manta
I did indeed ponder grabbing the SB800 out of the car Matt! I use it so often that, as you say, I keep forgetting there's another light source tantalisingly close.
I think the word is: Bugger.


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:01 am
by stubbsy
Simon
This is a nicely evocative image. I think the dark suits the mood.

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:00 am
by PiroStitch
Top pic! The colours, lighting and mood and perfect. My vote for a POTW for this one.
Which lens
btw?

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:16 am
by Manta
Thanks Peter.
Wayne, though I had my 70-300G (G for "Groan"), my 50mm1.4 and access to Steve's 70-200VR, this was definitely a wide-angle exercise. The only WA I had was the 18-70 kit lens and, as always, it was up to the task. A Sigma 10-20 or Tokina 12-24 would have been nice though..


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:17 pm
by CraigVTR
Great shot Simon. The dark adds to the early morning/late evening mood of the image.
Craig

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:27 pm
by daniel_r
Matt. K wrote:Simon
You would be suprised how many photographers look down at their cameras and say 'if only I had the SB-800 attached!"......But.....they forget about that brilliant little built in pop-up flash that can be dialled down to around minus EV 1.3 for just a tad of magic fill!

Matt, I'm looking at one of my bodies and can't find the pop-up flash button... can you help me out?


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:28 pm
by SteveGriffin
Simon,
I forgot to tell you that my Nikkor 12-24 and 10.5 FE were in the blue bag.


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:30 pm
by daniel_r
Simon,
This is a great image, and for me there's really little that needs any improvement.
I actually prefer the darker background and how the light from the burner is falling on the faces of the people below. It's quite an involving capture that makes you look deeper at it.
I'd be proud of this one
(and the 18-70 DX... it's a fine lens, and pretty damn decent for the size and price)

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:39 pm
by Manta
SteveGriffin wrote:Simon,
I forgot to tell you that my Nikkor 12-24 and 10.5 FE were in the blue bag.


!!!

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:41 pm
by Manta
daniel_r wrote:Simon,
This is a great image, and for me there's really little that needs any improvement.
I actually prefer the darker background and how the light from the burner is falling on the faces of the people below. It's quite an involving capture that makes you look deeper at it.
Thanks Daniel - I was lucky with the way the light fell.

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:04 pm
by gstark
Simon, Steve,
Great work, and I can't wait to see the others.
I think that. as others have already said, the darkness adds to this image, and gives it almost the sense of adventure that Steve must have been feeling at the time this was all happening.
A great image, and of a great event.
Well done, and I truly hope that the next time you meet with a bit more success, Steve.

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:05 pm
by gstark
daniel_r wrote:Matt, I'm looking at one of my bodies and can't find the pop-up flash button... can you help me out?

Daniel,
Matt's referring to the
camera body.


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:14 pm
by sheepie
Great capture! Really nice colour, lighting is spot on, composition is perfect.
It's an all-round good capture of the moment, showing a sense of adventure, with the darker background drawing the viewer into the happenings.
Nicely done and potential POTW material IMHO


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:17 pm
by stubbsy
gstark wrote:daniel_r wrote:Matt, I'm looking at one of my bodies and can't find the pop-up flash button... can you help me out?

Daniel,
Matt's referring to the
camera body.

As is Daniel I suspect - his D2H (like my D2x) has no onboard flash & hence no button


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:19 pm
by sheepie
stubbsy wrote:...his D2H (like my D2x) has no onboard flash & hence no button

And how much did you pay for it???


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:57 pm
by Manta
New image added to the original post. Steve was very close to lift off at this point. The burn is now from the gas cylinder onboard the 'mini-airship' (or 'The Locust' as I called it). Seconds later the attempt was all over due to wind gusts.

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:27 pm
by Alex
Great shot Simon! I like the first one.
Alex

Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:10 pm
by Matt. K
Peter
The D2x has a candle holder on top. Give it a try...you'll love it!


Posted:
Sun Sep 10, 2006 4:12 pm
by Alpha_7
Matt. K wrote:Peter
The D2x has a candle holder on top. Give it a try...you'll love it!

A small mirror, or the foil tray meat pies come in are also useful for directing your candle light.
Eat the meat pie first!
