Thanks for checking it out everyone.
Thes shots were taken with the tokina 12-24, and in the first to get more texture in the leaves I held a flash out to the left. It probably could benefit from some cropping though - there is a lot of them.
The second was about a 1.3 second shutter speed, but it was very awkward setting the shot up, and I couldn't see through the viewfiender lol, so it was click and hope. I did get a few different shots from different angles though.
Anyway, thanks for the comments
edit: this was at a place called Bomoderry Creek. I only went down there for the first time a few months ago.