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First Outing: D200 and 70-200VR

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:10 pm
by MattyO
All i could find and bother with this new beast was seagulls, i hope you don't mind.

The 3rd is just a shot of a seagull and the 4th is a 100% crop of that picture just to show you how sharp the lens and camera is. Handheld at 200mm

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:14 pm
by Poon
wow, great photos.

D200 + 70-200VR = killing combination

regards
poon

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:44 pm
by Oz_Beachside
WOW, nice. I cant wait for mine :D

How about adding a TC1.7?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:54 pm
by MattyO
geez man, i have to try and pay off this first!

I have used the 1.7x before and have got some really good results....

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this was taken with teh d70s and the 70-200 @ 340mm... stopped down to f6.3 i think.

I am undecided when i do add the teleconverter wether to go for the extra quality of the 1.4x or the reach of the 1.7x

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:24 pm
by Oz_Beachside
where can I learn the difference in the two? 1.4 vs 1.7 vs 2.0. And I see some version "II"'s ??

Do some work with the VR, and not the 80-200AF?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:30 pm
by MattyO
From what i have read.

The II's are the versions that work with the AF-S and VR and all that.

The differences in the 1.4 and 1.7 and 2.0 converters is the amount that the optical image of the 70-200 is enlarged, as it maybe enlarged so much that the image is now "soft". Because the amount of light entering is reduced, it has the effect of losign 1 stop for the 1.4x 1.5 stops for the 1.7 converter and the 2 stops for teh 2.0 converter.

So there is always goign to be a trade off between image quality and maginification, also teh speed of the lens changes as well

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:49 pm
by Glen
Oz, the version II of the 1.4 and 2.0 came out in 2001, so anything you see for sale new is II. There was no version I of the 1.7.

I haven't seen a direct photo comparison, but a summary of all the reviews would say 1.4 almost no degredation, 1.7 some degredation and 2.0 is some way behind with noticeable degredation. I think the Sigma 2.0TC mates better with their 70-200 than the nikon does with their 70-200.

I bought the 1.7 to mate with my 70-200 as if I bought the 1.4 I would get 280mm, but the TC was halfway to a 300mm prime which would give better quality (or all the way there if you bought Matt K manual 300).

As it was I then bought the 300 and the 1.7 mates nicely with that to give a usable 510mm on a tripod :lol: PS Matty, nice images :D

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:29 pm
by Slider
Great stuff. The detail in the last is brilliant :D

PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:28 pm
by seeto.centric
wow.. amazing stuff there! what settings did you use in the second and third photos?

the seconds appears a tad soft on the left wing... maybe because of the DoF i guess?

D200 seems so tempting... but my D70s feels like new again after i swiped the sensor :D

-julz

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 12:10 pm
by MattyO
I think that is more motion blur than softness from the small DoF.

THe D200 is an extremely well designed camera. Everything you need is right at your fingertips!

That and the 10.2MP and 5fps was the reason I upgraded. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the D70s. If you don't wanna go broke, do yourself a favor and don't hold the d200 in your hands... you wont be able to resist

PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:49 pm
by radar
Oz_Beachside wrote:Do some work with the VR, and not the 80-200AF?


The II's will work with the VR.

They will not work with your 80-200AF. For those, the Kenko TC will work.

André