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Here are a few that i have worked to try and emphasize colour.....i am really trying to push myself with my post work...............

Hopefully these are pleasing to the eye!










Cheers
Dan

EDIT: Sorry i have changed two images as i wasnt happy with them, NOT i might add the image lukeo didnt fancy........lol

Well I'm not usually the first to post, but why not. I like your work, and see you really do not only have a good job but enjoy it.

1,2 and 4 work for me.

I can't quite say why but 3 doesn't.

If all our photo's were winners... we'd have too many photo's.

Great stuff! Thanks for sharing.

Did you use any fill flash for these or are they plain sunlit? The light is amazing, not sure now much PP were done on lights, but they do look amazing

Yi-P wrote:Did you use any fill flash for these or are they plain sunlit? The light is amazing, not sure now much PP were done on lights, but they do look amazing

Just fill flash mate.....thanks for the comments.......

as BORAT would say.... very nice..how much?
Seriously awesome light as Yi-p said, strobe+ diffuser on bracket... very nice PP as well...

I particularly like #2 for colour, and #4 for mood. It's the shadow under the model's nose in #3 that is a bit distracting, however that photo is overwise good too. #1... pose looks a bit unnatural? I don't think the model looks very comfortable. Great stuff, though!

I like the fact that you put all this togethor and are creative. It pays off very well. The images look professional...which means they are professional and your PProcessing is excellent. You have a talent so keep pushing it.

Thanks for the nice words guys.....a fresh set of eyes this morning tell me that these are far from my best work....but i apprecieate the words all the same!

Cheers
Dan

I'd say you're blowing your whites out way too far. These are seriously bright images... I'd hold back in PP a bit as you seem to go too far in the PP a lot of the time.

Second is your best. Nice PP and composition.

Dan,

2nd one is nice compositionally and beautiful colours, I agree completely with what Leigh said.

Alex

yeah thanks leigh.........totaly blown them (whites) havent i.......i will watch that next time.....

Dan

cocnept wise i like your 2nd one best
it seems like a pretty complex setup

but for improvement it's just the arm on the pose she looks quite unrealistic
hence why the image is interesting you wonder how shes balancign on that sinking boat

tone wise i like the last one very moody but still think the distribution of light from face down to body is a bit uneven i'm sure technically you can work out even distribution by the placement of your flash

Really nice shots. However the first shot around the stomach area looks over airbrushed. Leave a bit of definition so it won't look flat. More flattering in my opinion.

I really dig the last one. Very sensual with the pose and how the model pouts her lips. Very attractive indeed.

Can you post the unedited images? Ie right out of the camera. I want to see your photographic skill with the camera, not the computer.

padey wrote:Can you post the unedited images? Ie right out of the camera. I want to see if your photographic skill with the camera, not the computer.

How about no...i have NO photographic skill what so ever....i cant even hold the camrea....

What sort of stupid request is that!

Did you even bother to read my intro....i was playing around intentionaly with PP...hello!

Check my website out there are plenty of examples of 'straight out of camera' work

Cre8tivepixels wrote:
How about no...i have NO photographic skill what so ever....i cant even hold the camrea....

What sort of stupid request is that!

Most of all your work i've seen is heavily PP. Add the attitude of your reply, what are you hiding?

padey wrote:

Cre8tivepixels wrote:
How about no...i have NO photographic skill what so ever....i cant even hold the camrea....

What sort of stupid request is that!

Most of all your work i've seen is heavily PP. Add the attitude of your reply, what are you hiding?

I am really 'Batman' ..thanks for asking !

More the point if you where someone who's work inspired me, or i really liked, like many on this forum, i would happily oblige.....but as i said, thanks but no thanks!

Well, what Padey's asking is fair. It comes down to skill really. If you're doing a lot of it in camera, then brilliant. If you're doing it all out of camera, then fine too.

But from the amount of over-PP that you do, seeing what it originally looked like to where you got it to is a fair request.

You of course don't have to oblige, but I wouldn't feel insulted by it (in case you are).

Nnnnsic wrote:Well, what Padey's asking is fair. It comes down to skill really. If you're doing a lot of it in camera, then brilliant. If you're doing it all out of camera, then fine too.

But from the amount of over-PP that you do, seeing what it originally looked like to where you got it to is a fair request.

You of course don't have to oblige, but I wouldn't feel insulted by it (in case you are).

Its quite well known that you do not like what i do Leigh and thats cool we all dont have to have a love in , BUT i dont have to prove anything to anyone, i am happy to take C& C on any image i post, but that request from Padey was not C & C...so again...i am cool thanks...

I seem to go around and around with this topic (P-P)....yes my images maybe oot and yes you may even be right that it is to hide flaws or lack of skill i might have, but who cares, so i am a crap photographer big deal....i just want to post images and NOT have this BS around any post i make, can i do that please??

Dan

I really like your work, that includes pre and post work. When viewing the end result, I dont care what you have done where, your end result is impressive.

Personally, I would learn by seeing the before and after, as i think Pirostich once posted. SHare as much or as little as you like, this is a club environment...

Thank you for sharing what you do!

Oz_Beachside wrote:I really like your work, that includes pre and post work. When viewing the end result, I dont care what you have done where, your end result is impressive.

Personally, I would learn by seeing the before and after, as i think Pirostich once posted. SHare as much or as little as you like, this is a club environment...

Thank you for sharing what you do!

I have had numerous PM's from members asking for advice/tips/techniques etc.. and i have ALWAYS been very helpful to part ways with what 'little' i know. I have also told those members to seek out others on this forum as they 'blow' me away technically. I dont do it alot in thread because i just DONT think i am that good yet to part wisdom and i dont want to sound stupid or not seem to know what i am talking about.......lol....thats it...cheers

Dan,

Cre8tivepixels wrote:.i just want to post images and NOT have this BS around any post i make, can i do that please??

Probably not.

When you post images for C&C, you do so with the implied acceptance that the criticism may, or may not, be to your liking.

And that is fine: there is no compulsion upon you (or any other person) to respond to any such criticism

I'm reading Andrew's comments, and I'm seeing that he is asking you many of the same questions and making very similar observations to those I made of you when you first joined us.

Whether you respect or accept Andrew's criticisms is neither relevant nor the point here, and his criticisms are relevant and appropriate, btw. It's just that you can choose to respond.


Or not.

gstark wrote:Dan,

Cre8tivepixels wrote:.i just want to post images and NOT have this BS around any post i make, can i do that please??

Probably not.

When you post images for C&C, you do so with the implied acceptance that the criticism may, or may not, be to your liking.

And that is fine: there is no compulsion upon you (or any other person) to respond to any such criticism

I'm reading Andrew's comments, and I'm seeing that he is asking you many of the same questions and making very similar observations to those I made of you when you first joined us.

Whether you respect or accept Andrew's criticisms is neither relevant nor the point here, and his criticisms are relevant and appropriate, btw. It's just that you can choose to respond.


Or not.

Thanks Gary i will keep it in mind

Dan,

Cre8tivepixels wrote:I dont do it alot in thread because i just DONT think i am that good yet to part wisdom and i dont want to sound stupid or not seem to know what i am talking about.......lol....thats it...cheers

With other members asking for advice/tips/etc, they obviously think that you have plenty of wisdom.

The flip side of this is that if you show how you do certain PP, others may actually be able to offer you some of their tips/wisdom so you improve your techniques, everyone wins.

Looking forward to an article in the Post Processing section or even in Chimp, some time in the future

cheers,

André

I have read a few posts by you Cre8tivepixels, I admire your work and think that you set a high standard for us mere mortals to strive for.

I must say though that a recurring theme in your posts is that you seem to post for adulation but are not willing to accept criticism when it is given.

The reason the quality of your work is high is that you have in the past accepted criticism both from yourself and others, don’t forget that.

Now if only I could take a decent photo.

olrac wrote:Now if only I could take a decent photo.

Anyone can take a decent photo....and i CAN accept criticism, but i seem to be subjected to allot more here than i 'sometimes' think is fair...i know allot of this stems from sometime ago when i acted like a complete prat, but i really just want to move on now.
I am not objecting to the comments on my images here let's not forget, it's the "prove to us that i can take a decent photo without putting the PP i choose to do on my images' lines that get me...

I think your work is more heavily criticised than most because it is all commercial, and given your shooting environment, you have a lot of control.

For example, a street photographer has no control over lighting, movement/positioning of the subject, outside interference (someone walking into the shot unexpectedly etc). All they can do is previsualise the shot, wait for the right candid opportunity, and shoot quickly and unobtrusively.

On the other hand, your commercial style modelling shots have none of the above challenges, but of course introduce challenges of their own. You have control over lighting and positioning your subject - probably the two most important aspects of photography . You have time to pose your model differently, use different lighting, different locations etc.

This is why your shots are more harshly judged than most. By its nature, modelling gives you huge amounts of control over the final product, and hence it is judged more harshly (technically) than most other areas of photography.

Also remember, 95% of the shots posted here are not commercial. You are competing with established pro togs, whereas most are shooting only for their own pleasure, or occasional paid work. Professionals should be judged harsher than amateurs IMO - their skill should set them apart from us riff-raff

rooboy wrote:I think your work is more heavily criticised than most because it is all commercial, and given your shooting environment, you have a lot of control.

For example, a street photographer has no control over lighting, movement/positioning of the subject, outside interference (someone walking into the shot unexpectedly etc). All they can do is previsualise the shot, wait for the right candid opportunity, and shoot quickly and unobtrusively.

On the other hand, your commercial style modelling shots have none of the above challenges, but of course introduce challenges of their own. You have control over lighting and positioning your subject - probably the two most important aspects of photography . You have time to pose your model differently, use different lighting, different locations etc.

This is why your shots are more harshly judged than most. By its nature, modelling gives you huge amounts of control over the final product, and hence it is judged more harshly (technically) than most other areas of photography.

Also remember, 95% of the shots posted here are not commercial. You are competing with established pro togs, whereas most are shooting only for their own pleasure, or occasional paid work. Professionals should be judged harsher than amateurs IMO - their skill should set them apart from us riff-raff

Yes Rooboy i can see all those points and they are all valid....BUT i AM NOT making any money out of my modeling shots....i do this for the love of it......so they really are not for commercial gain, they only ever end up in the models portfolio or mine...least for now.....if i get better i might start to make submissions etc to mags...thanks for the comments though..

Cre8tivepixels wrote:yeah thanks leigh.........totaly blown them (whites) havent i.......i will watch that next time.....

Dan

yeah, that's the one thing that undoes the whole package for me.
the bikinis take on a 2d apperance because all the detail has gone.


edit.. but i do like the rest of the colour, I'm a sucker for saturation and don't mind photos that are over the top in that regard

Dan

Just out of curiosity. How much time on average would you spend on PP for shots like these. I know on average I may spend 2 or 3 minutes per shot. I'm guessing you spend more than that and, as I say, I'm just curious to know. If you don't want to say I'm cool with that - I'll just stay curious

stubbsy wrote:Dan

Just out of curiosity. How much time on average would you spend on PP for shots like these. I know on average I may spend 2 or 3 minutes per shot. I'm guessing you spend more than that and, as I say, I'm just curious to know. If you don't want to say I'm cool with that - I'll just stay curious

Hey mate.....i have it down to around 5-7mins a pic..thats for a fully "worked" pic though....

Cheers
Dan

Thanks Dan

That's less than I guessed. Now I'm happy.

Cre8tivepixels maybe this thread isn't the place and you could consider starting another one, however I am interested in achieving a fast workflow with good results.

Mind giving a breif run down on your PP steps? Say a quick 10 or something especially your most used tools and maybe any settings you usually tweak along way.

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Sounds perhaps better suited to the PP forum.