something completely different from me (+ first d200 shots)

[jamesw]

i was so excited about my d200 that i went outside tonight and took some photos... foxtel reckons its 5 degrees outside

like the title says, something very different from me. no flash, no bmx. probably not the best shot, it was taken at about 10pm with poor ambient light at high iso and hand held (read: shivering!!!)

i like the feel of it though, dont know why.



1/6 sec, f2.8, iso 800, handheld.

[jamesw]

another one

1/10 sec, f2.8, iso 1600

super noisy but i think it almost works in b&w

[Reschsmooth]

The second one is good, the first - well, you definately don't see too many UC toranas around!

[Cre8tivepixels]

I personally don't see any point to these images at all. There is NO focal point nor anything interesting (well for me anyhow) in frame.

Sorry...

Dan

[jamesw]

I personally don't see any point to these images at all. There is NO focal point nor anything interesting (well for me anyhow) in frame.

Sorry...

Dan

yeah fair enough, just conveying a mood of being fucking cold i guess.

got a bit excited about my new camera. went for a walk. took photos. admittedly this is not the type of photography that i usually dip my toes into, i shoot a lot of action stuff, and i was shooting in very poor conditions

NO OFFENCE but wouldnt mind creative crit though, like, they look soft, or noisy, rather than straight out criticism buddy

[ozczecho]

NO OFFENCE but wouldnt mind creative crit though, like, they look soft, or noisy, rather than straight out criticism buddy

IMHO, "no focal point" is a valid critique, and in this case I concur with Dan....I don't even get the feeling you were cold through the images...sorry.

[jamesw]

fair enough, no hard feelings. ah well.

[Geoff]

James - the 2nd one is superior IMO, it has a real eery feel to it which appeals to me for some reason hehe. It could be somehow used in an advertising campaign, what exactly I'm not sure but some creative marketing dude on a horrendously high salary could work that out surely? For hand held I thought they were very well done. Enjoy your new toy!

[jamesw]

James - the 2nd one is superior IMO, it has a real eery feel to it which appeals to me for some reason hehe. It could be somehow used in an advertising campaign, what exactly I'm not sure but some creative marketing dude on a horrendously high salary could work that out surely? For hand held I thought they were very well done. Enjoy your new toy!

yes i preffered the second shot, for sure. the street just seems dead, i guess thats how streets are late at night.

the first shot would have been so much better minus all the cars...

[PiroStitch]

the second one has more of a meaning than the first. it portrays how desolate suburbs can be late at night even though during the day it's bustling with activity.

[Cre8tivepixels]

NO OFFENCE but wouldnt mind creative crit though, like, they look soft, or noisy, rather than straight out criticism buddy

Ohh but its fine for you to come out in another post saying Quoting You "i was just having a look through someone elses' photos and i wasnt a huge fan of the exposures i started wondering... did this guy just shoot all auto or something?" in this post http://www.dslrusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26982

and didn't have the balls to name names and give THEM some constructive C & C......i thought that was just snide post to be honest!

And as for some constructive C & C i believe the first image is way out of focus.........

Dan

[Reschsmooth]

James - the 2nd one is superior IMO, it has a real eery feel to it which appeals to me for some reason hehe. It could be somehow used in an advertising campaign, what exactly I'm not sure but some creative marketing dude on a horrendously high salary could work that out surely? For hand held I thought they were very well done. Enjoy your new toy!

Geoff or Jamesw, if you want to pay me a horrendously high salary, I can come up with an advertising compaign for use with the photo?

[the foto fanatic]

Ohh but its fine for you to come out in another post saying Quoting You "i was just having a look through someone elses' photos and i wasnt a huge fan of the exposures i started wondering... did this guy just shoot all auto or something?" in this post http://www.dslrusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26982

and didn't have the balls to name names and give THEM some constructive C & C......i thought that was just snide post to be honest!

Dan

C'mon guys!

We don't have tit-for-tat criticism here. Let's keep the critiques constructive and to the point.
Thanks

[Cre8tivepixels]

My post is valid and to the point?

I can express that surely, and it wasn't a tit for tat response, he didn't like me being honest....i cop it in every thread i ever post on here? (honesty in my threads that is)

[Geoff]

Let's keep on topic here please ppls.

Back in your corners, take a big breath and let's move forwards!

Critique is just that...critique, can be taken with a grain of salt OR with emotion OR as a worthwhile suggestion.

I encourage all parties to refrain from flaming (or anything like that).

I don't want to lock a photo thread.

[jamesw]

NO OFFENCE but wouldnt mind creative crit though, like, they look soft, or noisy, rather than straight out criticism buddy

Ohh but its fine for you to come out in another post saying Quoting You "i was just having a look through someone elses' photos and i wasnt a huge fan of the exposures i started wondering... did this guy just shoot all auto or something?" in this post http://www.dslrusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26982

and didn't have the balls to name names and give THEM some constructive C & C......i thought that was just snide post to be honest!

And as for some constructive C & C i believe the first image is way out of focus.........

Dan

grow up, seriously. your response was tit for tat - there was no need to bring up something from another thread, more or less unrelated to this.

i read your comment, initially, as pretty harsh. then someone else put it differently and i said no hard feelings. its C&C and i probably did the wrong thing by telling you to be constructive. but to my credit, i dropped my qualm pretty quickly.

again, in my defense, the reason why i didnt post in the other persons thread was because i didnt think my criticism would be constructive, it would just be hurtful. i think thats a fair enough reason to not post back to someones thread.

there is no need to be a dick about this shit... the reason why you seem to 'cop it' is because most of your posts seem to be fairly abrasive, blunt, and in some cases rude. don't act like your a victim... the internet is emotionless, people dont get to see your body language or understand your sense of humour (as ive been caught out on here before.)

if you dont like my photos, thats fine. chill out. its not like these photos are my pride, heck man, i was just excited about a new camera and had nothing better to shoot...

like i said, no hard feelings... i'd say your older than me, so please act it....

[Cre8tivepixels]

there is no need to be a dick about this shit... the reason why you seem to 'cop it' is because most of your posts seem to be fairly abrasive, blunt, and in some cases rude. don't act like your a victim...

lol.really show me a recent post where i have been like those faceless descriptions??

[jamesw]

http://www.dslrusers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26743


CAN WE PLEASE JUST GET BACK ON TOPIC NOW. IF YOU WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THIS PM ME OR MSN ME JAMESDWADE@HOTMAIL.COM

[Cre8tivepixels]

So to quote you "the internet is an emotionless" medium could those comments not have been taken the wrong way? I was just trying to get my point across.......but whatever, i don't have time nor the desire to continue this silly discussion......

[jamesw]

 mods please lock this thread its ridiculous, this is not going anywhere.... dan if you want to hear from me further please PM or msn.

thanks to dan and everyone else who commented i do appriciate it.

[Geoff]

James - your photos deserve critique, the thread will remain open.

[stubbsy]

Dan and James please both get a grip and take a chill pill. Neither of you is blameless here and flaming each other does NEITHER of you proud.

And FWIW neither of these images grab me either, but I understand James isn't pretending they are high art. He has a new toy and he's excited. I would be too.

[gstark]

Let me just add to what Peter has said, but not about the images: Both of you need to step back and get your egos out of this forum.

Pronto.

Your images are welcome here, but your egos MUST be left at the sign-on screen.

I will tolerate no more comments of a personal nature from either of you, ever again, in these forums. If you are unable to comment to comment on the images without making it personal, then .......

[who]

My comments as an uneducated photolooker.

#1 seems to have the focus not even at the Torana.... the number plate while legible is still fuzzy. Also, based on a comment on the Pasha Bulker - the far street light has a very green cast - white balance issue.

#2 - the slogan would be "Travel to Adelaide, its a happening place"

Good photo and feel in an abstract way, not wall material.... possibly a bit too dark though.

Interesting to actually see some high ISO shots from a D200.

[seeto.centric]

heh heh, ill admit that the first shot didnt appear to have any focal point, but maybe if you stepped back or zoomed out a little, you would've been able to frame the streetlamp in the shot and maybe added a model to make them the focal point. thats what imo, it seems to lack but otherwise i like the orange cast from the sodium lamp.

the second shot i actually do like since its rather noir.. maybe you couldve left a battered helmet there and turned it into an anti-speeding campaign poster? or an old phone or some random object hehehe
maybe you might want to paint out the little bright bit front part of a house in the lower left?

both of you guys produce some great images but work in different fields, keep it up!

-j

[jamesw]

like i said a little earlier, i'm the first to admit these photos are not GREAT. however, i did like the second one, and i liked the light in the first.

however, they are by no means photos that i am proud of.

i was excited about how respectfully i thought the d200 performed in crappy conditions. i wouldnt consider the shots publishable, but they are respectable, and with some advanced noise reduction engines (i think neat image was mentioned in another thread), imho there is potential that shots at above iso 1000 would be usable in print.