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My First Band Shoot!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:06 pm
by Pehpsi
Well, i had to leave my comfort zone for once, and deal with people. I was looking forward to the challenge, and what a bloody challenge it was... The lighting sucked, and you guys were right, it was RED.

I took about 2 shots with my 18-70 f3.5, then took it off straight away as i realized it just wasn't gonna work! All i could do was put the 70-200 on and use the VR like it was designed for, and I've never needed it more!

Anyway, it was a good night, and got shit faced to the bloody max. Let me know what you think too :)

Also some advice, badly, as I'm doing another band on friday...

(I also get a media pass from now on!!)

All ISO 1600, f2.8, VR, aperture priority.


Cheers.

Lead Singer

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:39 pm
by Laurie
Sure she is nice to look at but are there any other members?
i like them though

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:47 pm
by Pehpsi
Yeah sure is. Thought I'd post each member by themselves. I'll put more once i go through the 200+ pics i took.

And i haven't slept yet, so my judgment isn't great at the moment... :)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:38 pm
by Louie
I'm confused - all I see are motorbikes? Am I missing something? :?

(Very nice motorbikes but not quite what I was expecting ...)



And 2 seconds after posting this, they magically changed into people :oops:

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:18 am
by seeto.centric
unfortunately im capped at the moment but the images have roughly half loaded. enough to make a comment :)
good work despite the circumstances and being a first timer.
what kind of shutter speeds were you getting?
heh.. at least the people dont look like they have 99th degree burns (from the red lighting and oversaturation/sensitivity)

-j

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:43 am
by PiroStitch
convert to b&w and you'll have heaps of options :) great stuff for a first shot

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:37 am
by gstark
Wayne is right, but these look a tad thin to me. That's a part of the issue with the red lighting - you need to pull back on your exposure to address the reds, and that leaves you with thin images.

This is especially so when you're already shooting at the limits, as you've no doubt noted, and that is why I choose to add in the dialled down flash. It simply helps to address all of the issues that you're facing, and tat the same time, gives you images that are more manageable.

But these are not bad for a first effort ....

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:06 am
by Greg B
1. She is cute
2. I love Gretsch guitars
3. The BW option is a great idea from Wayne
4. Maybe even some strong PP work, colour shift, that sort of thing.
5. What is the name of the band?

Thanks for sharing - looking forward to seeing some more

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:24 am
by Laurie
Louie wrote:I'm confused - all I see are motorbikes? Am I missing something? :?

(Very nice motorbikes but not quite what I was expecting ...)



And 2 seconds after posting this, they magically changed into people :oops:

TRANSFORMERS!!! MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE!!
sorry couldn't help myself.

Greg B wrote:5. What is the name of the band?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:29 pm
by young_einstein
gstark wrote:Wayne is right, but these look a tad thin to me.


What exactly do you mean by looking 'thin'?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:33 pm
by gstark
young_einstein wrote:
gstark wrote:Wayne is right, but these look a tad thin to me.


What exactly do you mean by looking 'thin'?


They're under-exposed.

If this was film, the negatives would be thin

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:53 pm
by sirhc55
Pehpsi - I just loved the 4th pic and thought, maybe there is latitude within PS to make some radical changes. This result is from manipulating red and magenta in Colour Balance and then further levels adjustment.


Picture will be removed if you are offended by my take on your pic.

The colouring down the singers right arm is not CA but light from the a side light. Loss of detail in right arm and chest could be painted back in.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:06 pm
by Greg B
Well, I think it is fantastic Chris. Amazing work. Although you need to get
the guitar back to red.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:39 pm
by Pehpsi
G'day guys, thanks for all the feedback. Sorry i took ages to get back to you, but i got called out again last minute.

Anyway the name of the band was Sherlock's Daughter..

That looks great chris, much better! I'm not too great with PP, and just know the basics. And they're pretty noisy, so i don't even want to sharpen them...?

I made the mistake of using aperture priority on my first 2 shoots. I don't know bloody why...! I just couldn't think, and got nervous...Next time i'll be in Manual so i can make quick changes.

I need more help, so I'll post some from my second try soon :)

Thanks all.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:42 pm
by fishafotos
I think you should crank up the ISO, crank the shutter and expose them more, just convert the really noisy ones to B&W - then noise just looks like grain :wink:

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:43 pm
by Pehpsi
Thanks mate. Yeah I'm not happy with these now. I didn't take the time to process them and experiment, and i also got settings wrong when shooting!

Also, what is the best White Balance setting for typical band lighting?

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:28 am
by gstark
fishafotos wrote:I think you should crank up the ISO, crank the shutter and expose them more, just convert the really noisy ones to B&W - then noise just looks like grain :wink:


Hmmm .... that's one way. :)

Pehpsi wrote:Also, what is the best White Balance setting for typical band lighting?


TANSTAAFL.

TANSTATBL.

I'll generally use tunsgten though, even when I'm using flash. RFemember that, when I'm usuing flash, it's significantly dialled down, so it's not going to be the primary light source ....

Which, btw, will be the answer to your question: the primary light source is the determinand for the wb setting that you should be using.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:40 am
by Pehpsi
Hey there, thanks :)

Yeah i shoot RAW and use Auto WB which comes out at about 4800k. I found by taking it back to about 2500k in PP, it looks much more normal and not all red. I would like to get it right when shot though..

EG:

4800k
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2500k
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