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Now this is quick - pic of camera added

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:57 pm
by Big V
Fozzie and I were playing around with a new toy yesterday and here is a small selection of what we produced...
Even if you dont blink, you cant see this
In case you are wondering why the hands are different, Fozzies at the top holding, mine at the bottom with the pin
here is the camera


Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:04 pm
by sirhc55
So, are you saying the new toy is a
PIN 

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:07 pm
by fozzie
Big V - excellent afternoon, full of fun
And by the way, you left out that we both got WET
The difference between men and boys, is the cost of their toys.
fozzie

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 7:17 pm
by Manta
Very cool guys! Was this done with a sound trigger and strobe? Steve (Griffin) and I played around with a sound trigger a few months ago but without some sort of strobing flash, we were obviously only going to get the one image of each "event". These are awesome!!

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:04 pm
by gstark
Simon,
Manta wrote:but without some sort of strobing flash
You can strobe the SB800 ...

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:12 pm
by Big V
Nope, natural light, photron camera, nikon 80-200 2.8 lens. The photron camera costs 100,000 dollars and was on loan. It is capable of 100,000 frames per second and shutter speeds of up to 100,000th of a second. These were taken at 20,000 frames per second and at 50,000th of a second shutter. Awesome experience and the best bit is we get to play with it alot in the future.. I am using it to prepare work for my science and phy ed classes.. It captures the scene as an avi and then allows you not only to save that but each frame as a jpeg or tiff etc. The only downside is the filesizes can get huge i.e a water drop we did which lasted 20 seconds produced a file of 2.3 gig. That was because we shot at 50,000 frames per second and were using 69,000th of a second shutter speed. Got to love it when you get to play with expensive toys that do outstanding things.. And yes all of those figures are correct - no typos.

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:29 pm
by adam
Big V wrote:Nope, natural light, photron camera, nikon 80-200 2.8 lens. The photron camera costs 100,000 dollars and was on loan. It is capable of 100,000 frames per second and shutter speeds of up to 100,000th of a second. These were taken at 20,000 frames per second and at 50,000th of a second shutter. Awesome experience and the best bit is we get to play with it alot in the future.. I am using it to prepare work for my science and phy ed classes.. It captures the scene as an avi and then allows you not only to save that but each frame as a jpeg or tiff etc. The only downside is the filesizes can get huge i.e a water drop we did which lasted 20 seconds produced a file of 2.3 gig. That was because we shot at 50,000 frames per second and were using 69,000th of a second shutter speed. Got to love it when you get to play with expensive toys that do outstanding things.. And yes all of those figures are correct - no typos.
Such amazing high speed! and it lets you mount the 80-200 f/2.8 on it?


Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:48 pm
by Manta
gstark wrote:Simon,
Manta wrote:but without some sort of strobing flash
You can strobe the SB800 ...
Gary - I realised the stupidity of my statement the moment I typed it.

I've even done it with the SB800 myself! My query on the technique (at least in MY mind!) was more related to the image recording method rather than the lighting. Why I didn't say that is... well... all part of the riddle that is me.
Thanks for the explanation Virg - next time I'll just ask "How did you do that?"
Now Gary --- has Poon got a price on a photron camera? I want one.

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 9:29 pm
by Big V
The photron comes with an adapter and you can mount any lens on it. The people who own it have a huge range of nikon camera lenses, so we used the 80-200 for those shots. For some later work we did in the arvo we were using the 17-35 2.8 lens. Both lenses were used at 2.8 because we had limited available light.

Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:12 pm
by ozimax
Pretty amazing shots, I once tried to photograph a bullet (projectile) coming out of a barrel at the rifle range in Rotorua NZ but had no success as the projectile is moving at approx 3000fps! I needed one of them thar photron camera dooverwackies...


Posted:
Mon Aug 06, 2007 10:37 pm
by Matt. K

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:34 am
by Big V
Matt, nope but you can use your lenses on this. Ozimax, we are going to fire some 9mm rounds into cards as part of another series. Some of the other stuff we have in th epipe line is sport related - showing the compression of balls and racquets when they collide and how shock waves move through the body when it undergoes large impacts.

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:22 am
by PiroStitch
Saw footage from one of these cameras (not sure if it's the same) of a rocket test ignition. Damn it's fast!

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:05 pm
by foonji
noice
i've used those photron cameras when I was doin some stuff with DSTO, was very kewl! especially when capturing rounds!

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:56 pm
by Big V
Foonji, yup this is who owns this one...DSTO
We will be doing some explosives work in a couple of months..
The good thing about explosives, is they are self illuminating and we can run the camera at the full 100,000 frames per second and 100,000th of a second shutter speed to capture the shock waves..

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 8:54 pm
by aussichef
Great shots Tony
Looks like you and Fozzie had a good day with a great toy
great shots any more you can share with us ???
warren aka aussichef

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:15 pm
by Marvin
Nice one Virgs! How long have you got it for? Might have to come down for a play!

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 9:46 pm
by Greg B
I love this sort of thing, fantastic results, great fun too I imagine.

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:22 pm
by DanielA
aussichef wrote: great shots any more you can share with us ???
Yes, show us the shots of the lions...
Actually, do you have a photograph of the camera itself? Is it hand holdable?
Daniel

Posted:
Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:59 pm
by Big V
The camera is not hand holdable and yes I will post a shot of it tomorrow. Lee - I have to go out to DSTO to use it on the weekends now, we had access to it on sunday as a learning process. Organising visitors may be possible

Posted:
Wed Aug 08, 2007 12:33 am
by foonji
Big V wrote:Foonji, yup this is who owns this one...DSTO
We will be doing some explosives work in a couple of months..
The good thing about explosives, is they are self illuminating and we can run the camera at the full 100,000 frames per second and 100,000th of a second shutter speed to capture the shock waves..
kewl, are you doing it through Carmine down at dsto?
let me know when your doin stuff at dsto and don't mind tagger alongers, i can go there no probs


Posted:
Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:33 pm
by Big V
the camera..

Posted:
Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:43 pm
by Yi-P
Big V wrote:
the camera..
And I thought the D2X was big... or the 80-200 simply tiny??


Posted:
Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:53 pm
by Big V
It has a huge heat sink all round it, so it is fairly large... The video screen on top of it, which is how you focus it was a 7 inch.

Posted:
Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:32 pm
by DanielA
Big V wrote:The video screen on top of it, which is how you focus it was a 7 inch.
Ah, so it's a P&S then.
I look forward to seeing more snaps.
Daniel

Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:02 am
by Reschsmooth
Big V wrote:It is capable of 100,000 frames per second and shutter speeds of up to 100,000th of a second.
Lucky it doesn't use film!


Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:51 pm
by Big V
The tech guy showed me an old high speed film camera that was capable of 30,000 frames a second and was explaining that the first 300 feet of the film was used to get the film up to the necessary speed without tearing it, it also had a rotating prism as the shutter - expensive business this high speed stuff.

Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:27 pm
by rookie2
Virgs..when do you actually get time to teach?
Accessing this hyper-speed gear is a great extension of your school work - next you'll be zapping pics back from Mars courtesy of NASA aand DECS!!
fascinating stuff so far...cant wait for the bombs, bullets and schrapnel!!
cheers
R2

Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:19 pm
by Big V
R2, yup manage to squeeze alot in in a week - for instance here is the control room that is managing the data from the mars explorers..
and the big dish which is receiving the signals


Posted:
Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:31 pm
by rookie2
first one looks like your classroom...or at least what I imagine it to be!


Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:22 am
by Marvin

Posted:
Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:37 am
by Big V
More like my set up for astronomy..