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by Grev on Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:00 am
Off topic a bit, you know the inverse shutter speed rule for shooting handheld, like if you're shooting at 200mm you need shutters speeds of 1/200s or faster to not blur.
I was wondering do you need to take the multiplying factor into account when shooting handheld? Like if you're shooting on a D70 you need to be shooting at faster than 1/300s at 200mm to not blur?
It's just that a "reputable" source claimed that you need to put that into factor when shooting handheld... 
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by Poon on Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:08 am
Never know 28-70 is so nice.
Nikon has made 28-70 for many years and if not good they may stop it already.
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by Jeko70 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:37 am
Grev wrote:Off topic a bit, you know the inverse shutter speed rule for shooting handheld, like if you're shooting at 200mm you need shutters speeds of 1/200s or faster to not blur. I was wondering do you need to take the multiplying factor into account when shooting handheld? Like if you're shooting on a D70 you need to be shooting at faster than 1/300s at 200mm to not blur? It's just that a "reputable" source claimed that you need to put that into factor when shooting handheld... 
Nope!
DX only refers to the size of the image circle, coz focal length is focal length!
What changes is angle of view!
The 1.5x crop of the Nikon DX sensor means that the 28-70 lens will have a similar crop to using a 42-105mm lens.
Using a 200mm You don't have a 300mm but a crop as at 300mm
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by birddog114 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:02 am
radar wrote: BTW, certainly looks like an amazing lens. Why such a price difference between the Tamron and Nikkor lenses?
Radar,
It's one of Nikon gems for many years now and it's standing same range as the 85/1.4, 17-35, 28/1.4, PJ + Pro photographers choose it as their main tool of trade and it does the jobs for them well.
Even in the digital era. The new old lenses are still more famous and demanded than the Dx range. Truly, if Nikon has two variations of DX and non DX, people still prefer to shoot with non DX.
If you have a chance to get into those shooting events, you won't spot many DX lenses with those guys, especially you won't spot many of the 17-55Dx in these shooting.
Tamron 28-75 was just released few years ago for difference segment of market, it's a nice piece of glass and for someone who doesn't have much loose changes in their pocket, compare to the Nikon 28-70, the Tamron is more plasticky, small glass, look cheaply.
Having both of them side by side, you can see the big difference.
Both of them produce very nice photos and sharpness at or beyond f.5.
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by Matt. K on Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:18 am
Fab
On the other hand you need to enlarge the image more to make a same size print as a full frame image. Because of that it is very wise to include the crop factor into the shutter speed equals focal length rule.
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by elffinarts on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:33 am
I wonder how it compares to the old AF Nikkor 35-70/f2.8 that I have for quality. This is likely my sharpest lens. But, I'd love to get that wider angle.
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by birddog114 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:35 am
elffinarts wrote:I wonder how it compares to the old AF Nikkor 35-70/f2.8 that I have for quality. This is likely my sharpest lens. But, I'd love to get that wider angle.
It's difference glass (elemnets + quality)/ built and uncomparable with the 35-70.
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by elffinarts on Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:54 am
thanks Birddog 
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by RICPIC on Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:42 am
I've had one of these (28-70/2.  for about six months. IMO it's two main attributes are: image quality (very inspiring) and a free gym workout (my biceps are definitely bigger).
it's a very imposing piece of hardware, your subjects will stand to attention when they get that thing pointed at them (if i want discretion i get out the ole Rolleiflex TLR).
i went through agonising between the 17-55DX and this lens for all the reasons already discussed here. in the end i went for the 28-70 cause i figure Nikon will one day build full frame sensor DSLRs.
D200, 12-24DX, 28-70/2.8, 80-200/2.8, 105M/2.8, SB800, Rollei 2.8F
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by birddog114 on Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:46 am
RICPIC,
Glad to hear your POW and it's same as mine.
I bought the lens which I like and keep them for life, so the Dx is also not for me too.
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