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Postby the foto fanatic on Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:19 pm

suzanneg wrote:I want macka to take mine :lol: :lol:


That's OK - then I'll take Macka's! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Geoff on Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:54 pm

leek wrote:Nice one Big Red... I haven't attempted anything like this before... and it's not easy to take your own photo... especially without a remote control...

My hat goes off to all the excellent self-portraiture that I've seen on this forum...

Here's my humble effort:

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John - and a good effort at that too. The pose is quite different for a self portrait and I think that's what's so appealing to this image. What was your backgroud? Can you talk us through how you achieved this shot. Your B&W conversion seems a little out of the ordinary too, I like it - what was your postvprocessing on this image? Thanks for sharing. PS - I see this as the 'first appropriate' image - does this mean you choose May's ES?
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Postby Manta on Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:58 pm

Geoff wrote:What was your background?


I think you'll find it's "Welsh".

:wink:

(Sorry, that was pathetic, even for me...)
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Postby Geoff on Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:01 pm

Manta wrote:
Geoff wrote:What was your background?


I think you'll find it's "Welsh".

:wink:

(Sorry, that was pathetic, even for me...)


Dear oh dear oh deary me...heheehe....funny none the less Simon :)
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Postby macka on Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:15 pm

Geoff wrote:
Manta wrote:
Geoff wrote:What was your background?


I think you'll find it's "Welsh".

:wink:

(Sorry, that was pathetic, even for me...)


Dear oh dear oh deary me...heheehe....funny none the less Simon :)


:roll: :roll: Oh dear.

Leek,

I like this portrait. Simple, effective, nice lighting. If I was nitpicking, it looks as though you are turning away from the camera slightly, where a straight profile might have been preferable...but I know how hard it is to get one's own head in frame let alone at a particular angle. Nicely done.
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Postby leek on Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:15 pm

Manta wrote:
Geoff wrote:What was your background?


I think you'll find it's "Welsh".

:wink:

(Sorry, that was pathetic, even for me...)
 ROFL... very droll Simon... ;-)

The background for my shot was a gyprock wall that's still to be painted... I was about 40cm from the camera and the wall was about 1.5m behind me...

I took about 57 shots - most of them front on, but I liked this profile shot... It's very different to the shot I started out with - heavily cropped - I then used high contrast, desaturated and then played with highlights/shadows to bring out some detail...
It looks like I need a good facial, but I can guarantee that my pores are not that dirty!!! :-)
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Postby macka on Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:23 pm

Alright, I've had a go. :oops:

I wanted to try something low key, as I've never tried it before. Lighting was a small lamp bounced off a white sheet of paper. Originally this image had a mid-grey background, and I've done an amatuer job of changing it to black. Would particularly appreciate suggestions as to how I can do this more effectively (my left shoulder and ear have very soft edges as a result of what I did.) Used the 50mm/f1.8.

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Adjusted levels, contrast, applied gaussian blur to skin and sharpened eye and lips.

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Postby Manta on Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:29 pm

Macka - I think the way it is is fine. Excellent, in fact. If I was to "nitpick" (as you say above :) ) I'd like to see the frame dropped slightly to show more of your hand and less of the blank space above your head. The way the light plays on the hand would provide more interest. I'd probably trim some space from the right hand side - if it's not classic thirds then dead centre would perhaps be more appealing. Just my thoughts...

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Postby macka on Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:34 pm

Manta wrote: I'd like to see the frame dropped slightly to show more of your hand and less of the blank space above your head. The way the light plays on the hand would provide more interest.
8)


Hmm..yes, good point. What is now the space above my head used to be my head when the background was lighter, and after making it black I didn't reconsider the composition. Thanks :)
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Postby phillipb on Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:41 pm

Very intriguing portrait Macka. What I find unususal is the very masculine pose (to me anyway) contrasted by the very feminine face. Very interesting.
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Postby suzanneg on Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:45 pm

Another beautiful shot. Creates mystery, which keeps the eye drawn to the photo, as you try to imagine what's in the dark part of the photo. Very dramatic effect. :up:
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Postby leek on Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:03 pm

macka wrote:Alright, I've had a go. :oops:
I wanted to try something low key, as I've never tried it before.


Ah... the advantages of youth... You have so much less to play with - less fat, less blemishes... :-)

A very nice shot macka, but I prefer the other self-portrait that you did...
A hint of detail on the dark side of your face would improve it - maybe a slightly reflective surface facing the lamp to slightly light up the other side of the face?
Good work though - at least I'm not alone in publishing my mug... :-) even if I'm alone in publishing my ugly mug...
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Postby Glen on Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:48 am

John, great self portrait, love the contrast and B&W. For me, I think I prefer it cropped into a square without the ear. You look very serious :wink:

Macka, like the portrait but agee with Simon, even really the concept of seeing just where you chin would be (as it is covered by your hand) as there is so much space on top. Lighting is very effective
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Postby stubbsy on Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:18 pm

Potatis wrote:Stubbsy, will you be doing a self portrait? :) I've always found that you have great character in pretty much all the photos I've seen of you. I'd be interested in seeing what you come up with, photographing yourself. :)

How can I resist such a challenge. I find this image a touch confronting (which is the idea), but have to say I had no problem with the whole SP concept. In fact I've a few other good ones I'll post elsewhere. Click the pic for a larger version where the grain in the image shows better.

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Edit: Guess I should say what I did too. I sat on the floor against a white wall in my hallway. On a stool in front of me at face height I sat the camera set to commander mode. On the floor I had my SB800 in slave mode and angled up at me. Then I took the pics (307 of them!) using the remote (which is behind my head) to fire the camera. For PP I used the Nik Color Efex B & W Dynamic Contrast filter for the B & W conversion then added a little noise in Photoshop.
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Postby Alpha_7 on Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:26 pm

Some really nice shots, Stubbsy nice work the SP, I like your take one it.

Macka - Great work with the lighting, simple yet so affective.

John - I like it, but where is the Cigar ? I think the profile works well.
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Postby blacknstormy on Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:14 pm

OH MY GOD Stubbsy
didn't realise how hairy you were !!!!!!!! LOL
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Postby sirhc55 on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:00 pm

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Postby Glen on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:01 pm

Rel, thats the mystery prize we will be having at the AW this year if you can make it. We are going to shear Stubbsy and knit someone a nice jumper with the clip. :shock:
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Postby suzanneg on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:14 pm

Stubbsy, there's defiance in your eyes, like someone is ordering you to line up against the wall. Strong shot - I like it.
I've had a go as well. I used the timer, pressed the button, and got into my lounge chair. Lighting was a lamp and the on-board flash.
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Postby suzanneg on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:15 pm

Having trouble getting the photo to post for some reason?
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Postby stubbsy on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:27 pm

Suzanne. The problem is the & in the filename. Rename it so there is no & then make the same change here and it will work.

blacknstormy wrote:OH MY GOD Stubbsy
didn't realise how hairy you were !!!!!!!! LOL

Is that good or bad Rel :D

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Postby suzanneg on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:34 pm

Thanks Stubbsy, here it is...
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Interesting shot Chris - I like the unusual crop.
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Postby rokkstar on Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:44 pm

Chris,

AWESOME!
That was the style i was going to go for. CLose up partial crop. Love the lighting and the background colour. Great DOF.

Love it.
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Postby Glen on Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:38 am

Chris, interesting crop, great focus on the eyes on a self portrait :D

Suzanne, nice even lighting and good sharp eyes, though the flash or lamp makes it look like you have white pupils. A moment in PS could change that. :D
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Postby MATT on Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:41 am

Chris I like this..

I am trying to capture my 3 girls in a similar manner, Then B=W then blow up huge and put on the wall.

I jsut cant get the right shots yet :evil:

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Postby spartikus on Mon Apr 03, 2006 10:45 am

OK, I'll bite..

Haven't really done much SP stuff except for the usual take photos of yourself in a reflection etc.

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This one turned out ok, just used my small halogen desk lamp in my face, maybe less than a foot away. Spot metered on my face, rest of the room was pretty much dark, hence the black background (was just sitting in my computer chair :P). Only partially cropped - I did agonise over the framing for a long time but I wanted to emphasise the eyes.

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Postby stubbsy on Mon Apr 03, 2006 11:29 am

Chris

This image works really well. The eyes really do grab the attention.
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Postby suzanneg on Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:50 pm

Very engaging eyes.
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Postby macka on Mon Apr 03, 2006 9:01 pm

Spartikus - I think this is great. As a thought, there's enough interest in your eyes to do an even narrower crop of just your eyes.

Chris - Nice. I like the crop and the background colour. I would sharpen your eye a little more.

Mum - you've already heard my comments :P I would try and blend the line between your hair and the backgorund - try using a brush at 1/2 opacity.

Stubbsy - In a word, wow. The eye contact, and the expression are brilliant. I really like the high contrast and grain effect as well. So dramatic!
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Postby SteveGriffin on Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:39 pm

I might have another go at this yet but here is my first. Taken whilst 'hanging around' on the decompression line 6 metres down under at the HMAS Brisbane this morning.

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I would have liked a wider lens to try this but I had the 60 Micro on which doesn't give a lot of options. Image is uncropped with minor saturation and contrast adjustments.
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Postby Manta on Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:29 pm

Nice one Steve. Good to see you in your other office... :wink:
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Postby Steffen on Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:14 am

Me and my evil twin:

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Postby Newidude on Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:14 am

Nice, never thought of doing a mirror image.
I did have a really good idea but time is just not an option at the moment so I put in a picture from a couple of weeks ago. I did make a thread for it as I did not (notice I did not type "didn't) know everyone was posting there portraits in here.
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Shot infront of a white curtain with on flash to my left covered in baking paper to diffuse. Kitchen sink behind me at waist level with another flash inside it 3 stops above to blow out the curtain and give a stong rim. Also have a baking tray to my right covered in foil to act as a reflector.
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Postby Alpha_7 on Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:46 am

Steffen wrote:Me and my evil twin:

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Your and your twin are freaking me out. It's quite bizarre, I like it, but it's freaky!
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Postby stubbsy on Wed Apr 05, 2006 10:19 am

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Interesing concept and it shows off the asymmetry of the face fantastically well. Which image do you like better (and is it left or right side)?
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Postby Mitchell on Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:38 pm

Here's a shot from the weekend (testing the theme a little...)

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Postby Willy wombat on Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:20 pm

I was tempted to title this picture "My Willy" - but i thought better of that.

Two different views of me

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Postby cjs on Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:37 pm

Here a couple of self-portraits I took while I was overseas - basically just to prove that I was there! They're nothing spectacular, and could probably do with a little photoshopping...

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Postby obzelite on Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:34 am

Well quite a few shots later and i still cant get the webpage to reflect properly.
Followered the trend with the b&w. deleted the red channel before turning to b&w really brought out the pores.
Although they look better(worse for me) on the larger pic. 3 years to the four zero, so i cant complain.

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Postby Alpha_7 on Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:37 am

Simon I think we have found Steffan's other triplet ;-)

Oh the webpage in the glasses is a cool affect.
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Postby Steffen on Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:33 am

stubbsy wrote:Which image do you like better (and is it left or right side)?


I don't know, they both look funny. And the one on my left (that's your right, of course) is my left side. If I print it and fold it so that the middle part disappears the original shot should appear.

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Postby obzelite on Thu Apr 06, 2006 1:37 am

Steffen wrote:I don't know, they both look funny. And the one on my left (that's your right, of course) is my left side. If I print it and fold it so that the middle part disappears the original shot should appear.

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sounds like the back of a mad comic, u sure a message won't appear?
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Postby Big Red on Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:37 am

edit: deleted as the image does not emerge at the small posted size, will try another image.
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Postby Oneputt on Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:13 pm

You are still no prettier :lol: Actually I much prefer the first in B&W,
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Postby Aussie Dave on Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:18 am

Thought I'd try and take a pic to include into this interesting exercise.

This was taken with D70 & kit lens, held at arms length in front of the bedroom window:

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Postby losfp on Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:49 am

Well, I can't decide between two of the images I posted in my own thread before, so here are both of them :)

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Postby suzanneg on Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:39 pm

Some very clever takes on SPs here.

Shane, I loved the black and white version of your photo when you originally posted it - not that the colour one is bad :).

Aussie Dave, intended or not, I think it would look better with the eyes in focus rather than the nose, but an interesting portrait.

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Postby rooboy on Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:58 pm

Hi everyone, first post here from me. I'm Macka's better half (:lol:), I've been lurking here long enough through her account so I decided to register. Imagine my surprise when the name rooboy is gone (how many other weirdos could call themselves that on the internet?) So I run a quick search through the few hundred mesages in my inbox, and lo and behold, I registered last year and couldn't even remember it!

Anyway, on with the photo. I know that it's oversharpened, I was going for a slightly noisy look.
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Postby Manta on Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:34 am

Welcome Rooboy and congrats on your first post. This is a good image too though I'm not sure you've acheived the noisy look you said you wanted. Still, it's a great SP.

Now, don't just sit back and let Macka take all the good photos in your neck of the woods - we're looking forward to plenty from you too. :)
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Postby suzanneg on Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:16 pm

Wow - great SP. Interesting seeing a SP from someone you know. It really shows a good, serious expression that you don't see so often in social situations. Welcome to rooboy :D (where on earth did that come from?!)

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