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			 by Onyx on Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:39 pm
 I was purging images from my hard drive, when I came across this one. I don't think I've published it yet - but it was taken at Central Park Zoo, during my time in New York a while ago.
   Shot at ISO500, and as far as I remember, I had not used noise reduction software. Handheld, & shot thru display glass. Kit lens at 60mm wide open, 1/30s.
 Apparently I'm a harsh critic, so feel free to give me a taste of my own medicine. I welcome equally harsh criticism.    Edit: sorry for the pop up IE users... you really should use a pop-up blocker.   
			
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 by PlatinumWeaver on Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:22 pm
 I don't like it because of the... 
 erm... lighting... no..
 hm.... DOF... no..
 uh... composition... no..
 
 Damnit...
 
 Edit: Sorry IE uses, you really should use Firefox..
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 by sirhc55 on Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:27 pm
 One of your best Onyx IMO
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 by Glen on Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:51 pm
 Onyx, what about a couple of SB800's to light the background? It is as dark as all hell in there.
 Joking, really like it and the lizard being the focus
 
			
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 by MHD on Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:56 pm
 that image is crap... take it off the internet. 
			
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 by JordanP on Tue Dec 14, 2004 2:11 pm
 Comeon Onxy ... don't you think you could have at least got it to count to three and give you a big toothy smile.  (aka love the image)    Craig 
			
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 by Killakoala on Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:55 pm
 Edit: sorry for the pop up IE users... you really should use a pop-up blocker
 What pop-up??
 Sensational lizard pic. love it. I love the lighting.Steve. |D700| D2H | F5 | 70-200VR | 85 1.4 | 50 1.4 | 28-70 | 10.5 | 12-24 | SB800 |Website-> http://www.stevekilburn.comLeeds United for promotion in 2014 - Hurrah!!! 
			
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			 by xerubus on Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:00 pm
 Onyx wrote:Apparently I'm a harsh critic, so feel free to give me a taste of my own medicine. I welcome equally harsh criticism.  
 That's a dodgy shot mate... did you take that with a 1mp hp jobbie?
 ---snip---
 I like the shot... a little more light around his head would really bring the shot to life.  was this taken through glass? if so, well done not showing any reflection etc. 
			
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 by Onyx on Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:18 pm
 Thanks for the responses everyone, you guys crack me up!     Compositionally, was it okay being in the middle? I dislike the placement of thirds, and I don't think it would have worked in this case, as the creature would be staring into darkness. 
			
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 by sirhc55 on Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:25 pm
 Stuff thirds - if you like the pic that’s what matters IMO. . . 
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 by gstark on Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:46 pm
 Onyx wrote:I dislike the placement of thirds, and I don't think it would have worked in this case, 
 Just remember that the rule of thirds isn't a rule. Never was, never has been. never will be.
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 by mudder on Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:22 pm
 G'day,
I have trouble getting good shots through glass and this looks really natural colors etc. seems really nice and sharp too...
 
 Re: noise reduction, I don't think I've used it since moving to the D70, haven't noticed any noise unless I push shadows up too much...
 
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 by Onyx on Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:46 pm
 WB was set to tungsten, according to EXIF. So that must've matched the lighting well. And the reason there aren't any glass reflections is due to all that blackness you see. It was one of those dark indoor enclosures and everyone had their PHD cams with flashes inconsiderately going off constantly. 
			
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			 by beetleboy on Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:57 pm
 What Lizard? I can only see a funny coloured log..Am I missing something other than originality (on my behalf?!)!!
 Liam =]
 Oh yeh..nice one!    
			
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 by MCWB on Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:10 pm
 MHD wrote:that image is crap... take it off the internet.
   The more I try to find something I don't like about that image, the more I am convinced that I can't fault it. Great shot Onyx. 
			
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 by Onyx on Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:26 pm
 I have something to fault: the "log" has its tail chopped off. We can't have that - it's incomplete!   
			
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 by Vicareyus on Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:06 pm
 Really good shot Onyx. Love it.
Now for something completely different - can you photoshop this lizard onto your shoulder in the Santa shot?
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 by Raydar on Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:59 am
 Great shot mate & under the circumstance well done.
 1/30 is hard to get pin sharp, hand held     As for the thirds thing, I can say when taking photos that rule never enters my head.
 Never used it!!!!!     Cheers
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