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Alisa Reworked

Postby Alex on Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:48 pm

Hi all,

In light of your very useful critique, I decided to do a re-work trial on one of the Alisa's photos.

Just to remind you, this is the one I posted a couple of days ago.

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You commented that it was overexposed and colours of her top were too hot.

Below is the new re-processed version where shirt colour has been corrected and in-camera curve removed and re-done to make skin tone more natural.

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Is it better, worse? Your comments would be MOST helpful. My pping skills are very weak so I would really benefit from your critique here. Thanks in advance

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Postby Sandy Feet on Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:54 pm

I like the reworked shot, not blown out with the skin tones and the top isn't overpowering the image, i'm glad you chose that one to rework its a really natural look

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Postby moggy on Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:59 pm

Nice shot Alex, the re-work is much better. :wink:

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Postby shutterbug on Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:59 pm

A lot better :wink:
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Postby Geoff on Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:05 pm

Agreed - nice rework, much easier on the eyes.
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Postby shutterbug on Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:16 pm

I Hope you don't mind Alex :)

I just did a slight crop, usm and applied sepia.

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Postby Alex on Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:23 am

Hi guys,

Thanks a lot for your comments. I sent the new version to Alisa last night and she told me she prefered her face in the first version while her top colour in the new version. Go figure. So I’ll do what she wants J

Shutterbug: I like your version a lot. Could you describe how you did the sepia treatment. Was it done in PS?
I remember someone posting a mini tutorial on this forum on how to do sepia tones, but can’t find it.

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Postby shutterbug on Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:49 am

Hi Alex, glad you like it. I did it in ps and also played with curves....
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Postby Tommo on Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:12 am

Much nicer, well done on the good PS work :D
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Postby Alex on Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:39 am

shutterbug wrote:Hi Alex, glad you like it. I did it in ps and also played with curves....


Thanks. Might try to replicate your treatment tonight after work. Bloody work gets in the way :-)

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Postby Alex on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:04 am

shutterbug wrote:Hi Alex, glad you like it. I did it in ps and also played with curves....


Apart from curves what exactly did you do to get that sepia look. Did you use channel mixer? Would appreciate some help here.

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Postby marcotrov on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:04 am

Nicer skin tones Alex. Much better :)
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Postby yeocsa on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:16 am

Dear Alex,

Well done, mate. It is alot better.

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Postby shutterbug on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:36 am

Alex wrote:
shutterbug wrote:Hi Alex, glad you like it. I did it in ps and also played with curves....


Apart from curves what exactly did you do to get that sepia look. Did you use channel mixer? Would appreciate some help here.

Thanks
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Will get back to you as I am at work....but did a couple of things like convert to BW and played with curves
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Postby big pix on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:40 am

an improvement but the face is still a bit hot ...... use levels or curves and darken the shot down a bit add a touch of warm filter and it will look a lot more moody..........
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Postby Alex on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:45 am

shutterbug wrote:
Alex wrote:
shutterbug wrote:Hi Alex, glad you like it. I did it in ps and also played with curves....


Apart from curves what exactly did you do to get that sepia look. Did you use channel mixer? Would appreciate some help here.

Thanks
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Will get back to you as I am at work....but did a couple of things like convert to BW and played with curves


Thanks, mate.

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Postby Alex on Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:46 am

big pix wrote:an improvement but the face is still a bit hot ...... use levels or curves and darken the shot down a bit add a touch of warm filter and it will look a lot more moody..........


Thanks bp. I agree the face is still too bright, but try telling this to the model :-). Will have to compromise. Thais like white skin :-)

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Postby big pix on Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:16 am

Alex wrote:
big pix wrote:an improvement but the face is still a bit hot ...... use levels or curves and darken the shot down a bit add a touch of warm filter and it will look a lot more moody..........


Thanks bp. I agree the face is still too bright, but try telling this to the model :-). Will have to compromise. Thais like white skin :-)

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Postby PiroStitch on Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:53 am

Prefer the reworked version Alex :) Much much better...my retinas don't burn as much now :D
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Postby shutterbug on Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:39 pm

Shutterbug: I like your version a lot. Could you describe how you did the sepia treatment. Was it done in PS?
I remember someone posting a mini tutorial on this forum on how to do sepia tones, but can’t find it.


Hi Alex, worked with gradient map then curve adjustment and channel mixer last, and finally abit of usm. :wink:
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Postby Alex on Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:43 pm

Thanks, Shutterbug and thanks to everyone for your comments.

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Postby Alex on Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:12 am

PiroStitch wrote:Prefer the reworked version Alex :) Much much better...my retinas don't burn as much now :D


Thanks, Wayne. Finally the model is happy to settle for the darker version :-)

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Postby birddog114 on Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:56 am

Alex,
Just this is my say:
Your model is Thai original and her skin is dark, same as many Asian girls.
I'm sure if there's a right techniques same as helpful tools, you can make the skin tone on her pics (face) more attractive and most onlooker would like to see her with her real and natural skin tone.

Just try your best to do some other model shooting with her early morning or late in the afternoon on the beach, rock in difference perspectives, you'll appreciate the perfectly lighting at those moments.

Shooting model in middle of the day with bright sun light is not my favour, especially under shade in the park, also background also contributes lot of meaning to the photos.
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Postby Alex on Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:41 am

Birddog114 wrote:Alex,
Just this is my say:
Your model is Thai original and her skin is dark, same as many Asian girls.
I'm sure if there's a right techniques same as helpful tools, you can make the skin tone on her pics (face) more attractive and most onlooker would like to see her with her real and natural skin tone.

Just try your best to do some other model shooting with her early morning or late in the afternoon on the beach, rock in difference perspectives, you'll appreciate the perfectly lighting at those moments.

Shooting model in middle of the day with bright sun light is not my favour, especially under shade in the park, also background also contributes lot of meaning to the photos.


Birddog - Thank you very much for the suggestions. Thanks all for your useful input. I think I learnt a lot from this.

Now, on to the real problem: How do I get this girl out of my head? :roll: :o :?:

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