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The Power Of VR

Postby Andyt on Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:22 am

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70-200VR 1/40th sec, F2.8 ISO200 - Hand held - No PP
Having recently acquired this lens I am still getting to know it.
Tonight I took this pic and because of the fading light tried the
settings above and was pleasantly surprised at the result.
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Postby Oneputt on Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:53 am

That is a nice sharp image from a nice sharp lens :D
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Postby bindiblue on Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:13 am

Great sharp shot,, wish I had got the 18 -200 VR , but wasnt in stock,,
Happy shooting with your big VR lens

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Postby PALL on Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:05 am

sharp captures.the vr realy is working up but without knowing FOCAL length i can't judge its power,, what was FOCAL length.?
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Postby Manta on Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:10 am

I'd be very happy with that shot Andy - can't wait to see what you come up with when you really get to know the lens.

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Postby padey on Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:13 am

To me the boat doesn't look sharp. I'm sure a 100% crop of the boat would show that.

VR isn't much help if the subject is moving.

I would have bumped the ISO.
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Postby gstark on Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:07 am

While it may not be critically sharp, often that is of little importance. For instance, sometimes you have the choice of less than critical sharpness, or no shot at all, and no shot at all might not be an acceptable result.

In terms of typical printing quality, this image will be and is fine, and is more than acceptable for probably 90% of what people would accept.

Andrew, you need to learn, realise, and accept that most members here are not pros, and enjoy photography for the sake of enjoying photography.

I accept that those may not be your ideals or standards, but you need to also recognise and accept that others may have different standards - which are acceptable to them.

And with all due respect, that's going to be the larger part of the membership here.

And yes, while bumping the ISO is one available option, in this instance it's probably not required.
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Postby sirhc55 on Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:03 am

If this is a critique on VR then it passes the test on the parameters given. If, however, this is a critique on the photo itself then I would have to agree that it lacks focus and definition. This could be improved with curves adjustment and some sharpening.

As a subject matter, I like this photo Andyt.
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Postby Andyt on Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:14 pm

Thanks Gary & Chris,

That was the purpose of my post, to show what results can be achieved with this lens (by an amature :lol: ) I was just surprised at what I got.
I was leaving because the light was "gone" and snaped this one last.

As an aside, I found this lense so far to be to sharp (IMHO) for landscape, but remember, I have come from a 70-300G, and dare I say it, think it has a place if you want to achieve a "softer" overrall look. I have a Tokina 12-24 F2.8 on order, and am now very keen to see what difference's there are with this "fast" lens. Examples posted on the forum have looked great!.

Mmmm, or maybe now that I am using better quality lenses, like wine, an appreciation has to be learned? :)
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Postby nito on Tue Apr 11, 2006 10:16 am

I have shot 1/8 handheld with that lens and found it to be adequately sharp. Critically sharp it needs a minimum of 1/20.
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Postby gstark on Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:05 am

nito wrote:I have shot 1/8 handheld with that lens and found it to be adequately sharp. Critically sharp it needs a minimum of 1/20.


I've found I can shoot and get an adequately sharp image at 1/2 sec. Certainly not critically sharp, but there's a big difference between adeqaute and critical.

And often, for artisitc or portraiture shooting, critically sharp is exactly what is not needed: how many ladies like to look at a portrait of them that shows every wrinkle in excruciating, painful, razor sharp detail?
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