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Postby Sheila Smart on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:12 am

Took a trip to Taronga zoo on my day off:

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Postby Alpha_7 on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:19 am

The monkey was the last thing I noticed, but Shelia you've done it again... wow! I think this would be a good shot even without the monkey but it adds a whole new element and emotion to the shot.

On my work CRT the contrast is a little lacking (but it isn't calibrated) I'd prefer blacker blacks on my screen anyways.

Great shot.
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Postby owen on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:21 am

Hi Sheila.

I like the image but I think a better image in my opinion would be a crop of the kids in the middle. I have a feeling that you wanted to focus the viewers attention on these kids anyway, but there are a few other distractions. If you cropped everything else out I think it would be a great shot.

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Postby radar on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:27 am

Sheila,

very brave to go to the zoo during school holidays :wink: :shock:

You really capture the feeling of that poor chimp. It is being totally ignored even while being the closest :cry:

B&W works nicely here as well.

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Postby Sheila Smart on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:52 am

owen wrote:Hi Sheila.

I like the image but I think a better image in my opinion would be a crop of the kids in the middle. I have a feeling that you wanted to focus the viewers attention on these kids anyway, but there are a few other distractions. If you cropped everything else out I think it would be a great shot.

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My focus was entirely on the chimp, the humans behind him was purely a backdrop to his somewhat poignant isolation.

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Postby owen on Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:57 am

Sheila Smart wrote:
owen wrote:Hi Sheila.

I like the image but I think a better image in my opinion would be a crop of the kids in the middle. I have a feeling that you wanted to focus the viewers attention on these kids anyway, but there are a few other distractions. If you cropped everything else out I think it would be a great shot.

CHeers,
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My focus was entirely on the chimp, the humans behind him was purely a backdrop to his somewhat poignant isolation.

Cheers
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Wow. I'll be honest with you, I didn't even notice the chimp on my first glance! :oops: Sorry.
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Postby ozczecho on Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:00 am

Sheila, a great photograph.

I get a sense of isolation, "being in ones own world" when looking at this...even the people "behind the glass" are all doing standing there in isolation and doing their own thing...it is also sad, that the chimp is being totally ignored. Fantastic.

I wouldn't crop a single pixel.
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Postby Sheila Smart on Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:03 am

owen wrote:
Sheila Smart wrote:
owen wrote:Hi Sheila.

I like the image but I think a better image in my opinion would be a crop of the kids in the middle. I have a feeling that you wanted to focus the viewers attention on these kids anyway, but there are a few other distractions. If you cropped everything else out I think it would be a great shot.

CHeers,
Owen.


My focus was entirely on the chimp, the humans behind him was purely a backdrop to his somewhat poignant isolation.

Cheers
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Wow. I'll be honest with you, I didn't even notice the chimp on my first glance! :oops: Sorry.


Neither did they! Don't worry, others on my PBase site comments only noticed the chimp at the last minute.
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Postby Nnnnsic on Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:08 am

Great composition, but I think the black & white conversion is really lacking in this shot.
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Postby Grev on Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:13 pm

:shock: Great stuff, you're so good at spotting these things...
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Postby sirhc55 on Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:16 pm

We have in this photo an expose of life. The little girl with her hand to the face who has, by her side, a gentleman recently release from a Gulag with his P&S. Then we have a little boy finger writing on the glass followed by another child totally disinterested. Then the boy in awe with nose to glass. Lastly, the lady and child straight out of Les Miserable.

The chimp - in his/her own world, alone and isolated from the caged animals behind.

The black and white (or should I say greyscale) is perfect IMO and overall I find this image both powerful and sad.
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Postby agriffiths on Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:41 pm

Very nice Sheila, I wonder who is in the cage.. the humans or the monkey.
I don't agree with Nnnnsic. I really like the B&W conversion!
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Postby owen on Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:52 pm

I think maybe the chimp is a little sad because of recent price of bananas... $12.50 a kilo at our local fruit shop!
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Postby wendellt on Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:12 pm

as chris has said so insightfully

a wonderful image with so much to say
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Postby Sheila Smart on Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:30 pm

Thanks all. Regarding bananas, we normally feed a couple of brushtail possums with bananas and they are getting sick and tired of apples and pears I can tell you!

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Postby hangdog on Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:56 pm

Can anyone spot the second chimp in the photo? :wink:

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Postby pharmer on Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:44 pm

A very emotive image Sheila.

Perfect toning for the nature of the subject.

I'd have to say its my favourite image of yours so far (and you've got a lot of great stuff!)

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Postby stubbsy on Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:33 pm

Sheila

This is far and away the best black and white image I've seen from you.

Superbly spotted and framed.
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Postby Willy wombat on Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:45 pm

Sheila - As you know i dont mind a good B+W chimp shot. I think this one is really wonderful. Conversion also works for me. :D
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Postby blacknstormy on Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:16 pm

Don't crop - great the way it is !!!
My heart goes out to the poor monkey :( :cry:
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Postby Jamie on Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:35 pm

So sad but such a great image!

Well done, love it.
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Postby Slider on Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:09 pm

Wonderful image Sheila. The chimp's plight is clearly shown. One of your best :D
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Postby beetleboy on Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:34 pm

I love an image that can tell a story..this is one of those novels with lots of interesting short stories!

I wouldn't change a thing, the B&W conversion is perfect.
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Postby Dargan on Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:28 pm

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Postby SteveGriffin on Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:17 pm

Sheila I just love your work. This one tells so many stories it is just wonderful

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Postby Matt. K on Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:48 pm

Sheila
This is an outstanding image....and it's a wonderful element that we only notice the chimp at the last moment. This is the power of this particular photograph. The B&W conversion is excellent.
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Postby Sheila Smart on Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:48 am

Thanks all. It proved to affect folk the way I thought it would.

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Postby hash77 on Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:52 am

What a great photo. I think like everyone else I missed the poor buggah in the corner.
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