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Red Rattler Graveyard

Postby Marty on Mon May 29, 2006 10:05 pm

I was lucky enough to stumble upon the 'graveyard' of some of Sydneys older trains.
Here are a couple of images from the inside of a 'red rattler' just in case you forgot what they were like.

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Postby Sir Tristram on Mon May 29, 2006 10:09 pm

Arrhhhhhhhh those were the days.

Just as a side comment do both of these have "noise" or was it an intentional type of effect you were after?
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Postby Marty on Mon May 29, 2006 10:13 pm

Those days....were hot, sweaty amd smelly....!!!
Not the best way to travel.
I did add about 2% of noise in PP, as they looked too clean..!!!
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Postby brembo on Mon May 29, 2006 10:24 pm

What do you mean graveyard? Aren't all cityrail trains like that these days?
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Postby Marty on Mon May 29, 2006 10:27 pm

Hey Brembo, I guess it depends where you live.
The last time I took a train it was a bit more modern. :wink:
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Postby rooboy on Mon May 29, 2006 10:37 pm

Great shots, though I think I'd like to see them both in B&W. The perspective in #1 and the use of framing in #2 are excellent :)

Can I ask where you 'stumbled' upon these beasts, and how illegal it might have been (I would love to go and take some shots in there :P)
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Postby jethro on Mon May 29, 2006 10:39 pm

wow! i forgot how bad they were. pic no 1 has a feel.
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Postby Dug on Mon May 29, 2006 10:43 pm

Did you ever travel on the Queensland rail "Toast Racks"

The old wooden death trap carriages.
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Postby Marty on Mon May 29, 2006 10:52 pm

Thanks guys,
Rooboy, I just saw a big open gate and walked through, so technically I guess it is legal. I dont know exactly where it is. I actually parked in Newtown and just wandered round the backstreets looking for interesting subjects. I will go back again soon and get the full adress for you.
Hey Jethro, it sucked travelling on these trains in the summer, especially rush hour on business days, I occasionally got off before my stop because it was too hot and smelly inside.
And Dug, never travelled on those trains. In this compound there is a very old carriage, a sleeper style, which contains a shower, kitchen and lots of beds. It was a bit eery walking though as there were traces of dero's living inside. I have some shots of the carriage to post soon.
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Postby stubbsy on Mon May 29, 2006 10:55 pm

Marty #2 leaves me cold compositionally, but #1 is superb.
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Postby Raskill on Mon May 29, 2006 11:01 pm

They used to have old red carriages that came out as far as Bathurst on Friday and Saturday nights. I vaguely remember them, but I think they stopped in the mid eighties. My brother in law used to catch them to Sydney and go out on the piss, then travel home (3 hours each way...)

I really like number 1 by the way, I like the adds on the wall, gives it an abandoned feeling. Great!
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Postby Marty on Mon May 29, 2006 11:08 pm

Hey Peter,
cold compositionally...!!! waht does that mean...???
Does it mean crap composition :wink:
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Postby stubbsy on Mon May 29, 2006 11:25 pm

Sorry Marty. Meant the composition doesn't evoke a visceral response in me :D which is how I believe all great images should. Here I find the framing through the green window too instrusive and distracts me from the interior - rather than drawing me into the image it acts as a barrier. Interestingly the "through a window" shot you had POTW with a few weeks back was the opposite effect (and I liked it). When I do let my eye wander in I then get whacked in the right eye with the angular side of the stairs to the upper level which again stops me dead in my visual tracks.

Interestingly if I cover up the RHS of the image like would happen with a crop so the image stops a little to the right of the rightmost window it's a really different vibe for me (makes it look a bit like the windows are eyes). And no I haven't ingested anything pharmaceutical :)
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Postby Marty on Mon May 29, 2006 11:34 pm

Thanks for the explanation Peter,
forgive me but I have no bloody idea what you are saying, but it sounds good to me... :wink:
Are you sure you having taken any illegal substances.
Seriously though Mate, I really appreciate your feedback, I am very impressed on the way you look at an image, and what you 'feel' from that image, far more than I ever do even with my own images.
I tried the crop you suggested, and I totally agree, the two windows could be eyes. I am sure when I return I could compose the shot better, using the two windows as eyes and not including the stairway.
Cheers again, your comments will be acted on next time I am there.
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Postby Alpha_7 on Mon May 29, 2006 11:37 pm

I really like the first one Marty another great location for shooting and the low angle really suits.
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Postby Matt. K on Mon May 29, 2006 11:58 pm

First shot is excellent. Spooky. The low POV was perfect.
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Postby RogerC on Tue May 30, 2006 6:56 pm

Hey Marty,
love that #1 shot, this angle really gives a bug's eye view of decay. #2 looks too busy for me by comparison, I find it hard to find a focus point despite it being framed by the window. Love the location though.
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Postby Marty on Tue May 30, 2006 7:08 pm

Cheers Roger,
looks like a group decision....file image #2 in the bin... :wink:
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