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today's portraits - C&C please

Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:15 pm

Hello,
Here is a quick cut of a shot from today. love to get your feedback. today I tried to vary the lighting more throughout the shoot. get away from flat, lighting.

What do you think of this portrait?

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Postby owen on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:20 pm

I quite like it. I think the only thing distracting to me is the hand looks very rigid... though it's probably not as she has her fingers resting on her arm.. just me being nit-picky I think.

Everything else to me looks fine :)
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:22 pm

owen wrote:I quite like it. I think the only thing distracting to me is the hand looks very rigid... though it's probably not as she has her fingers resting on her arm.. just me being nit-picky I think.

Everything else to me looks fine :)


thanks, appreciate it! think they were sitting on the bangles...
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Postby blacknstormy on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:28 pm

I really like it - the eye contact is spot on ...
the only quibble I have is the PP you've done around the head - removing something in the background or stray hair??? Unfortunately, there is a 'smudge' or darkening where the PP took place which keeps on drawing my eye...... if you go back and clean it up, I'd love it even more :)
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:34 pm

blacknstormy wrote:I really like it - the eye contact is spot on ...
the only quibble I have is the PP you've done around the head - removing something in the background or stray hair??? Unfortunately, there is a 'smudge' or darkening where the PP took place which keeps on drawing my eye...... if you go back and clean it up, I'd love it even more :)


you got me, as I said, I quick edit, I normally blend PP of stray hairs. thanks for your feedback, mucho appreciatedo! :D
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Postby Alex on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:57 pm

The lighting is nice and even on this one, Bruce. Apart from the rough clone job above her head Rel already pointed out, I do not have much to add.

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Postby TonyH on Sun Aug 19, 2007 7:59 pm

Very nice portrait.... the only thing I'd like to see is the whitening of the teeth to match somewhere near the whites of the eyes.

To me they look a little yellow comparitively.
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Postby wendellt on Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:35 pm

i think this is one of your best though tout images
framing is good and clean even the pose/expression is relaxed and clean

although i think the lightign is pretty much flat regardless of what you tried to do even if the light is on the side or at the extrreme top bounce light from surrounds can flatten dont think the lightsource has been positioned in the right place to get the atypical hollywood lighting look

you need to get looser with your experimentation and really throw away the math and technical stuff to get creative with lighting, just let go of all your conceptions and really move that light around then when you have a understanding of light you can re-introduce the math and all the technical stuff
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:43 pm

wendellt wrote:i think this is one of your best though tout images
framing is good and clean even the pose/expression is relaxed and clean

although i think the lightign is pretty much flat regardless of what you tried to do even if the light is on the side or at the extrreme top bounce light from surrounds can flatten dont think the lightsource has been positioned in the right place to get the atypical hollywood lighting look

you need to get looser with your experimentation and really throw away the math and technical stuff to get creative with lighting, just let go of all your conceptions and really move that light around then when you have a understanding of light you can re-introduce the math and all the technical stuff


thanks Wendell, you give solid feedback often, much appreciated!

agree, I err on safety and technical rather than experimenting. I know this, and acknoledge it, as I get bored with what I am doing somehtings... I look forward to pushing myself to experiment more.
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:47 pm

TonyH wrote:Very nice portrait.... the only thing I'd like to see is the whitening of the teeth to match somewhere near the whites of the eyes.

To me they look a little yellow comparitively.


thanks Tony, agree, it was only a quick edit, will brighten teeth when do full PP later in the week. :D
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Postby wendellt on Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:08 pm

its really not that hard even experimentign with 1 lightsource

there is an endless anount of examples even in 1950's golden age hollywood movies the lightign concepts are simple but classic

study these scenes and the endless images of the 50's glamour and youll get an idea of lighting once you have these lighting concepts set in your mind you can perfect them with your technical knowledge but if technical gets in the way chuck it out and work on your artistic ideas even though they may yield non technial perfect results

clue 11 'o' clock position no softbox hard light no reflector try that
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Postby michael_ on Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:22 pm

can we see more, i rarely see an attractive female with an eye brow piercing like mine.
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Postby casnell on Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:29 pm

Nice shot Oz, I like the lighting and pose.
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:05 pm

michael_ wrote:can we see more, i rarely see an attractive female with an eye brow piercing like mine.


more to come during the week :D
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:07 pm

wendellt wrote:its really not that hard even experimentign with 1 lightsource

there is an endless anount of examples even in 1950's golden age hollywood movies the lightign concepts are simple but classic

study these scenes and the endless images of the 50's glamour and youll get an idea of lighting once you have these lighting concepts set in your mind you can perfect them with your technical knowledge but if technical gets in the way chuck it out and work on your artistic ideas even though they may yield non technial perfect results

clue 11 'o' clock position no softbox hard light no reflector try that


thanks for the tips. any good web references to these hollywood 50s glam images? or a few guru names I can google?
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Postby wendellt on Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:17 pm

this is a good example

http://www.hollywoodpinup.com/fashion-1/image/10lizabeth.jpg

or look up Jez Smith Australias top fashion phog
hes lightshaping is beyond amazing

he's my hero and at one point i did soem post production work for him on Autore magazine
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Postby Oz_Beachside on Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:23 pm

thanks heaps!!!

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